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Any advice for retouching athletes?

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Old 09-10-2009, 04:55 PM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

Ok I have added a few extra bits in an attempt to recreate that shimmer wet look. I think on the biceps they maybe need to be bigger but on the shoulders what do you think?

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Old 09-11-2009, 03:08 AM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

haha, I actually worked on that dude on the cycle.

The problem is with your stock image. The lighting is not in any way accentuating the muscles, there's no sweat to enhance, and it's only 1 shot.

THat dude on the cycle? That's a comp of over 30 shots. Arms, legs, hair, water, water bottle, cycle, background, details in the clothing (it is an adidas ad, so loads of time on that) are all different shots.

It's really hard to capture movement, strength and detail in one photo.

Now about your shot:

It's not a good shot to start with. When you look at that picture the first reaction is "It's a dude on flat backgroun" there's nothing dynamic about it. THere's no muscle tension. He's not actually gonna run in a second. If you don't have that tension and you only have 1 shot to work with, it's really hard to create that tension.

Have a look at this to see what I mean:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...L_shot_404.jpg

Now about what you've done to the picture. I'm afraid you've just made him look blown out. If you want to enhance the muscles, go in and dodge and burn (using 2 curves) the muscles. Not the whole picture. If you're serious about using this pic, start over.

I'll post a detailed retouch brief for you later today.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:53 AM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

Thanks that would be really helpful. Looking forward to it....

Assuming there was some sweat to start with how would go about making it more prominent? I thought maybe get a hard brush with scattering switched on then just make it it more concentrated in the centre parts where it's really glistening then just apply a slight blur.

Im just guessing here.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:04 AM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

Well, the reason sweat glistens is because of the highlights in the actual water drops.

What you do is very simply take a curve, make it a lot brighter (bring the white point in on a straight curve gets the whitest result) and then just brush that in whereever you think it's needed.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:12 PM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

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Ok I have added a few extra bits in an attempt to recreate that shimmer wet look. I think on the biceps they maybe need to be bigger but on the shoulders what do you think?

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1...ertry2copy.jpg
A lot of the look comes down to the lighting. The shiny look comes from two lights behind the subject that back light the skin giving it a shine.... Take a look at Jill Greenburg.... all of her shots are done with two backlights that skim the skins surface. This helps give the athlete definition in this muscles. If the lighting is there you can emphasize it, if it isn't, then it would be hard to just make it up.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:22 PM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

Yeah that's a good point the lighting is quite important.

@DJSoulglo you said regarding enhancing muscles to use dodge and burn using 2 curves...but I thought that method was only used to remove skin artifacts? Is another alternative to do it on a layer set to soft light/overlay with black and white?
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:59 AM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

A simple solution for enhancing muscles is to brighten the highlights and darken the shadows to form a nice definition, so that'll work with a layer set to "Soft Light" or "Overlay" as well as with curves.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:57 AM
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Hi,

I retouch atletes. Adding more contrast by using an overlay or hardlight layer is a good idea, then masking out the areas that look too darker and then d&b with 2 curves layers for more controlled modifications. Here is an example of a job where I did this things (ad other stuff).
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:01 AM
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Re: Any advice for retouching athletes?

Thanks for that. Will give it a go tonight.
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