How to have the widest and the richest grayscale ?

[Andrew Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Quantum3

Most photographers have not concerns about the technical stuff involved inside the camera and how it interacts with a given enviroment so even more impossible opening a talk about these things when the other party ignores lot of this technical stuff and even worst, when they're driven by their ego.

Originally Posted by snapperanton

Yep, lots of egos, I worked as a freelance fashion assistant for many years in London and worked with many of them. The worlds best photographers (or at least the ones shooting all the campaigns) are either extremely technical OR they have very technical assistants saving their butts on the day.... leaving them to be flamboyant and wild!!

A photographer would be crazy not to take advice from a retoucher they respect.

I think some of the best photographers are so focused on creating compelling imagery that all of the technical stuff falls behind, that's why they put together a great team of people to handle a lot of that stuff.

I think this can go for retouching too.... there's some very technical people out there who can write very good books on all aspects of photoshop and do countless seminars, but they might be not so good at retouching.... their time is invested in learning and teaching.... while some retouchers might have a very organic way of working and just sort of wing it by experimenting with different tools and not really read up on all the technicalities of it....

[pixelzombie]

it turns out i can open these with Preview of all things and save as tiffs..the clarity and detail in these is just amazing, i will have to take a closer look at some of my 2 1/4 slides shot with my hasselblad just for comparison...

[robertmccadden]

Vincent Versace's book "Welcome to Oz" has a couple chapters dedicated to B&W coversion in RGB color space. The techniques he describes yield the highest quality conversions IMO.

http://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Oz-Cin.../dp/0735714002

[Tareq]

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[TommyO]

Originally Posted by Quantum3

I have downloaded these already

These are a little old, but you can try them and see what you think.

RAW Images

[Quantum3]

Originally Posted by TommyO

These are a little old, but you can try them and see what you think.

RAW Images

Thank you very much, Tommy. Many people will appreciate the link. Will check that later (having to finish an urgent job right now).

[pixelzombie]

Originally Posted by TommyO

These are a little old, but you can try them and see what you think.

RAW Images

i get some error in german when trying that link

[TommyO]

You should see the following web page, then just click on the "English Version" link. Other than that, I'm not sure why it would not load, as it does on my browser. Like I said, some are a year or two old now, so I don't know that he is still maintaining the site very well.

[lkroll]

Pseudogrey (or 1786 shades of grey).

http://r0k.us/graphics/pseudoGrey.html

I use a GIMP technique that approximates this result, but I usually get more then the theoretical 1786 shades since the techniques more loose. I used a gradent map technique (target has exactly 1786 grey levels) and use Sample Colorize filter to convert the target to Pseudogrey.