Pale skin - how achieve?

[Cyberek]

I'm wondering, how this effect Was achieved (especialy skin color/saturation):
http://homepage.mac.com/ekphotograph...images/037.jpg
Credits for photo goes to EK.

Thanks in advice for all clues.

[amica999]

Hi, try this, make following adj-layers

1) channel mixer, mono, blend normal, opacity adj as desired
2) channel mixer, mono, blend screen, opacity adj as desired
3) channel mixer, mono, blend soft light, ""

Play with setting of ind. channel

this is the workflow from Calvinize (currently available in german only)

[Tareq]

1. Good beautiful model with nice skin originally at least
2. Good Make-up
3. Good lighting
4. Photoshop or similar retouching

If you can get #1,2,3 good enough together then #4 will be not so difficult or so long to work with.

[seattle-light]

I agree with Tareq here. This is about planning as much as retouching. A brilliant makeup artist, great setup for lighting, great capture, and then using retouching to finish it off. It's all about planning and previsualization -- and then getting everyone working together to achieve the intended effect. If the makeup and capture aren't impressive to begin with, then it becomes exponentially more difficult to achieve this kind of look. It can be done, but then it's more about invention than retouching. Creating a great image is a team approach.

Hope you are doing well. Take care. Alan.

[Cyberek]

Thanks for answers. I hopy, You will admit, that nobody has so pale, almost white skin. So ofcourse, lips, eyes and smooth skin is made by makeup artist, the photography is done by photographer and his lightning skills, but after that, i can't believe, that it's just a touch of PS. <b>amica999</b> sugested a workflow, need to try that, but maybe You know also another ways to achieve the look, so I could try different approach's. In the end, i hope, that i will know how to make the last part (PS), so I can decide and ask Make-up artist in next session to try this kind of way.

Thanks in advice for all help.

[AngeloLorenzo]

Another good starting point for Caucasian models is to lower the orange saturation in Adobe Raw. I'd also blend in the blue channel (channel mixer) set to softlight to bring out freckles.

[insmac]

Well without an appropriate makeup foundation it's gonna be tricky. Nevertheless, you may try to do as following:
1) solid color adj. layer, fill it with white, blend soft light
2) do the masking; set a desired opacity.

Helps me sometimes.

[edgework]

Originally Posted by insmac

Well without an appropriate makeup foundation it's gonna be tricky. Nevertheless, you may try to do as following:
1) solid color adj. layer, fill it with white, blend soft light
2) do the masking; set a desired opacity.

Helps me sometimes.

White soft light layers can go a long way towards creating this effect. But instead of masking, try using Blend/If sliders to bring back the shadow detail, either by preventing the soft light layer from affecting it, or by putting the original in multiply mode at reduced opacity and using the sliders to restrict the effect to the shadows. You can get a much more seamless blend than by masking.

[snook305]

I hardly did anything to that image.
The girl had great skin and I desaturated a little bit the red channel in Hue/Saturation.
Then just basic retouching. Nothing fancy at all.
Shot with an octobank in front and a strip light up from above and white saide panels on the sides close in with a silver reflector underneath...
Also the make up artist did NOT make any white make up.. it is just desatruation of the red channel...
I also desaturated the wig as it was a little yellowish if I remember correctly..


Snook

PS> I did work on the lips for a LONG time as Black glossy lips are hard as hell to get straight and perfect out of the box.

Looking at it now I would go back and make the whole in the wig the same as the right side... (camera right)

[Cyberek]

Wow... snook305 i have just read Yours reply 3 times, and couldnt belive, that this Was Yours retouch (in suprising way ofcourse)... Great suprise, and great reply. Thanks a lot.

[snook305]

here is my other website by the way.. have not put up anything new in a while as I have been swamped with work, thank gosh..But will be renewing it soon as I have a lot of new stuff.
Snook
www.ericknorpp.com

[Algarve Images]

Great image Snook,
it's as i thought originally, the lighting setup..
I can see the octobank catchlights, can't wait to begin using mine when my studio is less of a building site lol,
regards,
Gary..

[snook305]

Yeh I had it a little high and Close in as well as all the other things were really close in.
I think I had it without the front diffuser but cannot remember exactly as that was a couple of years ago.. now adays I have my assistants try and take a backstage shots of all my shoots to keep like a diary as I shoot atleast 2-4 times a week, antyhnig from beauty to catalogue to advertising etc...
I usually like a certain lighting for certain things and use it for a couple of weeks until I get bored and want to change it up a little and /or expriment. Liking hard lighting lately
Thanks for the comment
Snook

Just looked real quick and you can cleary see the Octo as well as the silver reflector in her eyes...

[Cyberek]

snook, is there a place, where one can see Yours backstage photos (light setup etc) in compare to made photo in that setup? (or maybe You could send few of them to ones email)?

[PhotoEclat]

i find that some russian girls have an almost bluish glow to their skin, quite amazing.

http://www.model-kartei.de/bilder/bild/4300612/

almost no skin retouching there.