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Old 12-26-2009, 05:10 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Matt you say be fair,when you know the contents,but lets be honest There are literally thousands of people selling this type of content
1) A LOT OF IT IS JUST PURE CRAP AND YOU USUALLY DONT FIND OUT UNTIL YOU PAID FOR IT,tell me how many of you has this happened to at least once.
2)YOU BUY IT AND FIND ITS JUST REPACKAGED INFO< YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE OR COULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR FREE
I am not saying thats the case with this product,but you can see why people might be skeptical
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:33 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Nick has anyone contacted you yet regarding who to give an early copy of the DVD to? Id suggest starting a thread over on MM and give it to someone there too.

I think once that happens then at least that person can say ok it's worth it or no it's not just the frequency seperation methods ect...

No one here really knows whats in the DVD so I think we should
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Old 12-26-2009, 06:07 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

LOL Wow! Y'all are a tough crowd in here! (Nienna, you almost made my head spin with that comment!) It's alright, I like it—you're gonna keep me on my toes!

Lemme try to address a few points and concerns:

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Nick has anyone contacted you yet regarding who to give an early copy of the DVD to?
I'm actually speaking with Doug Nelson to arrange both an advance copy and also a possible session on RetouchPro LIVE.

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Wow, when I first entered the site I thought it was a porn site.
LOL I supposed all the ladies on the site could be a bit distracting, and their purpose misunderstood. Having been submerged in the business of mags like Maxim for several years, I think I'm probably a bit desensitized to images of half-naked women (please note that there is no actual nudity anywhere on the site or in the series). We actually shot original content specifically for this series, and I assure you, my sincere purpose in having the models wear swimwear/lingerie is that A) I wanted to feature as much skin surface area as possible, so as to cover topics that others typically don't (but many retouchers need), such as stretchmarks, cellulite, razor bump, and surgery/pregnancy scars, and B) 90% of the customers that have requested my retouching help are men who photograph women.

All that said, I do apologize for any initial shock value. It is unintended.

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I would definitely say its over priced.
Cuervo and Zganie, I appreciate your concerns on price, especially given the worldwide economic climate we are in at this moment. As I mentioned earlier, I have heavily beta-tested this series, and one of the items I did discuss with each artist was price point. Because this is a complete system and approach to retouching, as opposed to a plug-in or filter, I feel the price fits the product. My greatest concern, however, is gaining new customers. Please PM me if you're seriously interested in the product, and we can discuss options.

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Natalia's DVD looks alot more promising and in a reasonable price.
I actually don't see myself in direct competition with Natalia, as our products target different audiences as well as vastly different aesthetics of photography. I think that Natalia is INCREDIBLY talented, and I hope her product sells through the roof and makes her a fortune! I watched the preview as well, and I think she's got a fantastic tutorial. I strongly believe our products teach different strategies as well as methods or retouching, and I think they will speak to the appropriate audiences.

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1) A LOT OF IT IS JUST PURE CRAP AND YOU USUALLY DONT FIND OUT UNTIL YOU PAID FOR IT,tell me how many of you has this happened to at least once.
2)YOU BUY IT AND FIND ITS JUST REPACKAGED INFO< YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE OR COULD HAVE GOTTEN FOR FREE
Zganie, this has happened to ME many times. However, as a commercial photographer, I also am comfortable with the risk associated with investing in my career. I completely understand your skepticism, and while I can't offer total transparency into a for-sale product, I can tell you that having taught countless retouching classes one-on-one, the Slickforce Technique, at the very least, is a completely original method. Whether you will like it or not, I cannot say, but I promise you that it's not "repackaged info" or something "you could have gotten for free." Again, please feel free to PM me if you're seriously interested in the series.

Alright, thanks again for your time, guys and gals. You're definitely not going easy on me, and I appreciate the honesty. I figure if I can win over even 10% of you, I'm doing pretty well. Let me know if there's anything else I can answer. Happy Holidays!
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Old 12-26-2009, 06:22 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Thanks for the detailed reply Nick. Can I ask in terms of the actual process how much of it is presented in an end to end fashion? Not sure if I am wording that right but for example on a previous series which I will not name the topic was skin smoothing and the retoucher started off and then said ok I will fast forward now as you don't want to watch me the whole time.

I can appreciate in some places that might be the case but how much of that can we expect on your series? I like the before and afters. For the 2nd and 3rd pics how long did they take to do? Are those pics ones that will be covered in the series?

Also sent you a pm.

PS Great pic of Game in your avy. I noticed that on your site/blog too.

Cheers
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Old 12-26-2009, 06:25 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Happy holidays!

Wish the best for your DVD sales!
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Old 12-26-2009, 12:25 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

I'm not really that interested in DVDs at the moment, specially when you already know Dodge & burn, and the degrunge technique. At this point what is more important to me is seeing someone actually working than any kind of techniques.

Well regarding the price point it really depends how you present it, I was giving my opinion to the OP, specially since the last topic seems to be a bunch of techniques I learned intuitively or by searching the internet.
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Old 12-26-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

The last topic maybe but even then you can't really just assume the rest of the topics are also same info that you have seen elsewhere. I like all the pics I see on his website and all those mag covers pretty much speak for themselves.

Also is Doug himself going to actually test out the DVD's or is he going to pass them onto someone else? I didn't think Doug himself was that into retouching, more admin ect....
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Old 12-26-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

You can buy a lot for $500. I've been burned from a $200 DVD...not going to do that again. I'd say Snook would be the most critical but impartial critic. Until there a real review...buyer beware!
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Old 12-26-2009, 02:13 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

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The last topic maybe but even then you can't really just assume the rest of the topics are also same info that you have seen elsewhere. I like all the pics I see on his website and all those mag covers pretty much speak for themselves.
Well still, if the last topic is titled

"Lesson 6 - The Stuff No One Else Will Teach You"

and then goes by describing it

"Now you're ready for your Black Belt in Retouching. Tackle the "touchy subject" problem-areas that no one else will discuss. Stretchmarks, back fat, neck twists, veins, discolored hand and feet, freckles, moles, ashiness, frizzy hair, and jewelry removal."

Which is funny since that's some of the questions I see here and on MM and I have seen answers for them. So for me that takes away allot of credibility in my eyes. Its up to the reader to read the info, read the opinions, and then make up his/her mind.
The results may vary as you can see with your opinion and mine.
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:00 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

You have a point there. I think for a lot here they will be relying on feedback from whoever gets to test it out once Doug gets hsi copy.
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