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Old 03-07-2010, 07:10 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Matt..you continue to miss the point ...its not the content....it all comes down to the price. I agree..I can always learn, but no one has convinced me to be foolish enough to spend $350 on a DVD series. I've begged for someone to show me at least one highly recommend DVD series at a similar price..still waiting. I've taken just about every $10 two hour seminar Doug has offered to date...DEFINITELY worth the investment.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:50 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

I have contemplated, and have been very tempted to buy this series myself, but I think that I will just use the methods that I have learned / created over the years myself to get the job done. I really do love to learn new things and I do very often. But for now....

My clients are happy, so I guess I will leave well enough alone. I would love to see his techniques, just because I enjoy seeing other retouchers workflow. I am sure that I would learn a few new things, but for now, my "own system" seems to be working OK, cause my clients keep paying me.

Bottom line, regardless of which DVD or new technique that you may come across, it truly is all in the eye / mindset / knowledge of color, skin tone, texture, and form. Those are the DVD's that should be produced. Years of experience help too!

At first I was worried that anyone could do my job with these new secret techniques from this series, and now I know that even if you get these new and amazing secrets, that you first must have an "eye".....so I will rest well for now!

I do hope, Nick, regardless of what anyone thinks, that you dvd series sells well, from one business man to another. Maybe I will see you in LA soon. Probably not a very popular sentiment on this thread, but, oh well....good luck anyway!

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Old 03-07-2010, 11:09 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

I sure hope people would not negatively judge the value of the DVD's based on my example of my very first practice with the techn. That wouldn't even make sense.

If one looks at Nick's blog, his portfolio, and his awards (like being the Grand Prize Winner for Best Retouching at Photoshop World 2008) and decides that their current skill level is already on par with his (or better than his, if that's the case), or that it's not worth the price to learn his techniques, then so be it.

http://slickforce.com/glamour-gallery.php
http://masteringretouching.com/about.php
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:50 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Hey Channy,

I am definitely not slammin' the guy, Like I said I really hope his DVD helps many people that want to get into the "retouching Biz".

I know that the guy produces some great images, and I hope that you can learn a lot from his DVD series. I am not trying to discourage his dvd's at all. But just keep in mind that it is your eye that really does the work, and no matter how killer a new technique is, if you don't have the visual sense, it does not matter. That was my only point...teach basic visual concepts and then the tools and then all of it will fall in place. To many photoshoppers have these powerful tools and use them without the basic fundamental knowledge of photography and form...

BTW.....You did a great job so far on that first image, looks pretty good. I hope that you can take what he teaches you to the next level.

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Old 03-08-2010, 01:25 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Aww, I get a warm and fuzzy feeling every time I come in here. See, there it is again!

Actually, reading this thread is always both humbling and enlightening, and once again, I do sincerely thank you all for your comments.

Cuervo is completely right when he says it's healthy to have these kinds of posts...and in fact, it's healthy to have ALL kinds of posts and perspectives—I would never want the "naysayers" to be silent. If anything, their input has only pushed me to revise, refine, and ultimately release a better series (including lowering the price in January when they successfully convinced me that I was way off-base. You were RIGHT.)

And while I am naturally thrilled to read thoughtful reviews such as Bdeshazer's or Calvin's, as well as recent posts by Channy, Linmar, Dinein, or DRalston, who all appear to have found the series useful, I am also always intrigued by and appreciative for Skydog's, Cuervo's, and Flashtones' perspectives (though I often need a drink afterwards.) As I've said before, they keep me on my toes. (And if this whole photography thing doesn't pan out, that snake-oil salesman thing sounds pretty promising!)

But I digress. I wanted to let you all know that Slickforce will have a booth this year at PhotoshopWorld in Orlando (March 24-26), and I'll be there in person to answer questions, as well as showing clips of the DVD series (which will be available as a hard copy box set at the conference—a full week before the scheduled release date—thanks Taiwan!) for those of you who'd like to see more than is currently offered on the website.

I hope to see you there—it would be great to put some faces with names (or at least with coded forum aliases!)
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:07 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

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Hey Channy,

I am definitely not slammin' the guy....

But just keep in mind that it is your eye that really does the work, and no matter how killer a new technique is, if you don't have the visual sense, it does not matter...
BTW.....You did a great job so far on that first image, looks pretty good...

Hey DCM,

I didn't think you were. My post just followed yours. It wasn't directed at you. It was just a comment in general.

Anyway, you are so right about having a visual since. I wish I had some! LOL! I have to study what to look for in shading/lighting and stuff, it doesn't come natural to me AT ALL! That's one reason, I don't even dream of becoming a pro. But, I enjoy trying to improve my own skills and your post is a good reminder that I need to study more of that kind of thing also. Thanks.

And thanks for the compliment.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:33 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

I have bought tutorials and Photoshop books for years now...Guess I though they would rub off on me.. This is by far better than some of the others.
Nick speaks in a tone that won't put you to sleep in the first 15 minutes.. Maybe his technique isn’t new, I’m sure it is out there on WWW but I haven’t found all and don’t really have the time to look for it, I have got it in a set of DVD’s with some narrative to help me out, And I am probably much older than most here and with a concise program it will help me. I need a fast track to even think I am going to learn retouching. I, for sure won’t be the next Chris T., Carrie B., Amy D.

This course might be a little advanced for a newbie to Photoshop but for someone a good working knowledge shouldn’t have a problem as Nick explains in layman’s easy to understand terms. And most likely wouldn’t be for the more experienced “master” retoucher, since they would already have their own style of retouching

The price may be a little on the high side for some but cost is relative, I see he has lowered it some. A $100.00 is even a lot if you don’t have it. If Nick does indeed, and I do not know why he wouldn’t, use this style / technique in his work flow it would be well worth the price. Check out is site and all the awards and kudos of his work. Plus I am sure he wouldn’t have the lasting clientele.

I don’t really understand the naysayer’s that have to repeat themselves when someone says something positive BAM up pops a quote let me see what it has – let me see your work.. Some or most of the people who bought it probably pretty much just started retouching and just started using this series and their work would not be commiserate of what an advanced or experienced person could do. I know I won’t put up some work thats not good

just maybe some of these naysayer people have bought the set and are trying to hold others back by saying negative things about it....


Thanx..........
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Lloyd, thanks for that thoughtful and honest review of your experience with the series. Glad to know I didn't put you to sleep!

Hey guys, since a bunch of you have been messaging me about the DVD Box Set, I'm here to confirm that we're completely on schedule—in fact, ahead—and the DVDs will ship as promised beginning March 30. Please remember that we have hundreds of pre-orders to fulfill from January as well, but my team will be working round the clock to insure that all newly processed orders will be shipped on schedule.

Also, I received the proofs last week from the printer and I must humbly say that these things are gorgeous—truly a proud piece to have in any artistic library. And of course, the 7th Volume—Exotic Features (which was created entirely due to customer requests and features fixes commonly requested by Asian, East Indian, and Middle Eastern clients)—has been included in the box set. Download orders will be sent a link to download the bonus volume.

I'll post pics once I get the first hard copies at PhotoshopWorld in Orlando next week. Hope to see many of you there!
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:17 PM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

I can't believe I just read through this whole thread. it was entertaining & informative. I think there is a bit of a generation gap between those brought up on the Vogue example of beauty retouching and those now exposed to the Maxim, FHM, Show Mag, and other urban glamour publications. I am definately a rookie/ newbie to all this and am curious to learn as much as possible, or as much as I can afford. I would buy Nicks vids right now if I could afford it, hell I would buy a lot of things if I could afford it. Right now I shoot with a canon rebel xt, a sunpack canon compatible flash, with strobe slave flash on a stand with an umbrella, and cheap savage paper for white background and CS2. What I have learned is that its not always what you pay for it's how you use it. Being self taught with a lot of things I'm now learning how to use things properly, and technically. But I have to be financially responsible with my decision. Nick can charge whatever he wants to charge if there's a demand for it why not. Don't we all want to charge as much as possible for our own works? Don't we all feel our work is worth what we say it is? As long as someone is willing to pay for it, so be it.

I think you can always be critical but you must also be factual & respectful. From comparing Nicks work to porn, when there is no actual nudity or intercourse on display is kind of tough. I also think assuming that everyone who has something to say in support of Nicks work is some how in partnership with him is kind of tough also. I know this forum stresses no advertising but yet everyone that is on here is looking to promote themselves in one way or the other in some degree no matter how great or small.

When I look at Nicks work I see a quality that I don't see else where, and I can see how he can argue that his technique is unique. However when i look at the other retouchers mentioned I can also say the same thing. But it can be argued that they are all based on the same platform...Photoshop! And being that photoshop is a program that was designed by a collective of individuals it is fair to say that no matter how unique ones technique may be it is all based on the concept that started with the developers of that program.

So i say that to say this. everything starts with the basics, it's how you apply those basics to make your own masterpiece is what makes you unique. Be critical of your own work just like you would be of others and you will soon see greatness in everything, even those things that you may not agree with.

By the way if you have more links to free tutorials and basic info on retouching, my broke rookie newbie self would like to see them.
Thanks
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:01 AM
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Re: Mastering Retouching DVD by Nick Saglimbeni.

Very well written!
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