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Old 02-13-2010, 10:01 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Well cheers guys... at the moment I am limping along with my Fuji S602Zoom but have looking to invest in a SonyA230 and then ill get lights shortly after.

As for working as an assistant flexmanta, your a lucky guy.

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Old 02-13-2010, 10:14 AM
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Sony? If this is going to be your first DSLR, buy canon or nikon. Your first DSLR will only introduce you to photography, and with the camera in your hands it's like you learn new stuff automatically. You don't want to regret not having bought an industry standard camera without a common lens mount and hot-shoes that you can combine with 3rd party accessories.

The first body you buy has to be a cheap one, but one that allows you to invest in new lenses that will work with your next body. I would buy a second hand 5D (you just can't go wrong with a 5d), or if you don't want to spend that much, a 500D/400D, but these have aps-c sensors that will modify your optics. Once you learn a little, you will hate having a cropped sensor (like i do with my 50D).
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Before going to sleep yesterday I made an half hour attempt at doing some "Greenberg" postpro on another pic I picked from another thread, using the method I spoke about above.

I think the "Greenberg effect" is quite there even though the pic is absolutely not suited for a 100% "Greenberg emulation". Not very polished work though so don't look at it too closely. Not to be analyzed by purists, only a small exercise

In my opinion the effect lies more in the postpro work than in the photography. Of course if you have both, the better.
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:17 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

I've always agreed with the photographers, although reading this has made me think on it a little. What you do have with Photoshop is the ability to change any pixel in an image to any luminosity value you can think of. Does this mean that the lighting of an image can be completely backwards engineered? Well yeah, it pretty much does. If you had the patience, you could paint a Greenberg image by reference pixel by pixel.

Although the above is a ridiculous idea that'd take months, the Photoshop toolset is entirely capable of emulating any physical lighting setup you can think of. There is no magic sequence, not in CS4 at least (maybe we'll figure it out when a future version makes it a feature and we look back with fresh eyes), but a user can conceivably sit down with CS4 and turn a flat lit image into something resembling any one of the popular Greenberg/Dragan/Hill effects so many seek to emulate, even if it means doing it pixel by pixel. The very fact that it's a possibility means that I'm sure someone is working on the math behind it. Imagine the Lighting Effects dialog by CS7 or 8 and remember what we can do now that we didn't have in Photoshop 7. It's possible, it'll happen. Just not yet, and not in this thread
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:20 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

To turn a flat lit image into a Greenberg image in photoshop you need to be Michelangelo.
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:34 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

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To turn a flat lit image into a Greenberg image in photoshop you need to be Michelangelo.
But still possible, someone will speed up the process and it'll be available as a plugin with little sliders. Five years later there'll be a website that'll do it for you, it'll be all over facebook as an app for teenagers to transform their photos, and we'll all remember when we were useful
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:37 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

go on and dream further!
There where a plugin that can create a hard work style like Dave Hill, Jill Greenberg and so on...hahaha good joke ;-)

Come Back to earth. i mean this not bad!
You can create much in photoshop but nothing at all!

The Look like DH, JG isn´t possible without the right light setting!
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:42 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Am I the only one who uses no plugins?!
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:44 PM
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no you´re not.
i ´m using only the original ps filters and nothing seperate!
i think that is the only way to get an personal style in your pics.
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Old 02-13-2010, 12:47 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Just say the name of ONE plugin that can do something that you can't do with photoshop right out of the box (apart from the image extractors).
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