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Old 02-12-2010, 01:10 PM
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First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Hi,

Right this is my first post so "Hello" all.

I have really taken a shine to the Jill Greenberg effect and after some tutorials and a lot of restarting later I got to this.

I have used photoshop for around 5 years and started focusing on retouching about 2 months ago so critique points would be great...
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:39 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

No, that's obviously nothing to see with the Jill Greenberg look, is it?

I have attached a 2 minutes version of your pic which I am almost certain is far closer to this look than yours.

IMO this JB style mostly relies on 1)local contrast enhancement, 2)on curve adjustment on the L channel as to "compress" the midtones.

There is an entire thread on the Greenberg look anyway.
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:53 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Damn... again. How on earth do you want to make a photo look like one of his, if you are missing 90% of what his photography is all about: Lighting!
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:46 PM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

They seem to believe in quick fixes + the advantage of photoshop (multiple ways of doing the same adjustment).

Flexmanta you are so right when it comes to the knowledge of photography....lighting is a key element, followed by colour theory (most forget this process when it comes to editing). Pity these don't apply to the above "stock" photos....trying to replicate a look simply in photoshop from something you don't know how it was photographed...yes you can assume but it just makes it look worse.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:13 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Lol... I guess my lack of photographic knowledge has hit a few cords. I do understand that without the pin light at the rear and ring lights used in her actual shoot it is going to lack but tbh who has the access to that standard of equipment in there own home.

I guess some people are quick to snipe rather than educate aren't they flexmanta!
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:28 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Sorry clockworx but flexmanta ist right. Your picture and the work of secretagents has nothing to do with the Greenberg Style.

But don´t be bad. The only key ist the lightsetting.
My Pictures are a little bit different as Greenberg because i like much more contrast and sharpness as Jill.
It is not a problem for me to get the pictures smooth like jill!

Here are my pictures: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/1305255

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Old 02-13-2010, 02:51 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Hello TimeActor,

Firstly those pics your linked are awesome, that effects is what I was looking for and my reference to "Greenberg" was a sign that I am new to photography and photographers.

I am not disputing flexmanta but merely opinting out his blunt writing style.

If you have any tutorials and pointer TimeActor that would be much appreciated mate.

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Old 02-13-2010, 03:52 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

Hi Gareth,
many thanks
Anyone has a beginning in Photography and Retouching. There is no reason to lough for! Generally spoken.
You must learning step by step like i or anyone else do.
That could be a long hard time.
In the last year i work in my business to earn Money for my familiy and in the nights (every night! and tiredly eyes) i´ve learning much in many many hours.
Without hard work there is no chance to get high quality pictures!!!

The first step you must learning to work with your camera perfectly. Then you should learning about picture composition and colours (color circle!)
After that you must learn about light - color temperature and so on.
So don´t be afraid you should learning this ;-)!

Then you must! learn about the basics with photoshop to understand the programm. When you have understand photoshop you can go and experiment with.

There is no faster way! I´m sorry.

After all i´ll teach you how to do.

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Old 02-13-2010, 06:12 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

In fact, i'm sure that if you saw one of Greenberg's photos before retouch, it would already look like a Greenberg photo.

You guys should try and get a decent DSLR, a couple lights and a way to trigger them remotely. You cannot imagine how much better you will retouch once you learn the basics of photography and lighting.

Just to improve, i got myself a job as an assistant at a very important studio here in my country. You should try yourself, because it looks like, if you are so excited about JG's work, chances are you like photography too. Forget about academies and photography courses. Learn on site, and who knows, you might land at a job as an assistant for a photographer who needs retouch.
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:51 AM
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Re: First Attempt at Greenberg Effect?

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In fact, i'm sure that if you saw one of Greenberg's photos before retouch, it would already look like a Greenberg photo.
thats right!
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