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Old 02-28-2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

Yes; I will turn 45 in April.
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

She's 48. She's not glamourous, she's interesting. Trying to make her skin look like she's Tyra Banks or Heidi Klum is exaggerating in the wrong direction. I exaggerated in the other direction.

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Old 03-01-2010, 11:26 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

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She's 48. She's not glamourous, she's interesting. Trying to make her skin look like she's Tyra Banks or Heidi Klum is exaggerating in the wrong direction. I exaggerated in the other direction.

http://edgework.tripod.com/samples/jason.jpg
No way!!!
I actually can say, that my friend Ute doesn't look even close as that!
She does look MUCH younger and she does actually look not like 45!

And by the way, I am sure she could look glamurous if she want to, so that you even would fall to your knees.

Hell, she is even not recognizeble on the thing you posted!
Fog, that is the worst retouching I've ever seen!!!

Please remove it!


Jason

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Old 03-01-2010, 11:57 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

I think there is a clear winner.
The (with distance) best retouching actually came from:

robmac
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Congratulation my Dear!

Your work is both: beautiful and exactly on the point.
You magically captured the expression and the feeling of the photograph and pushed it to the maximum. You focussed on the person and the personality and simply optimized the photograph (which actually wasn't the best ever) in a surprising, yet pleasing manner.

You did not even try to remove wrinkles or reshape the face to make she younger with other synthetical Botox. But the final result definately is: she looks younger now! And yes, she even looks absolutely glamurous with what you did! She looks real! And saying that I want to emphasize that "looking real" is the most obvious problem with retouching in general.

I do not now how you did it nor what you used exactly but I think, your visual skills regarding contrast, focus and shape and the "essence of expression" are remarkeble. You shaped, yet brought to life the beautiful soul of that fotograph. And you did that obviously in only few hours.

Your nickname is something that anyone needing professional grade portrait improvement should remember. Definately.

(I'll probably send you some money to get in touch with your edit...)

Thanks alot!
Jason.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:17 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

It definitely should not drive into an extreme "beauty", "fashion" or "art" style of photograph.

I'm so confused. I guess I don't know what a realistic retouch is, your choice is what I could call a beauty/fashion/art retouch.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:36 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

Hi Jason

As you have made your choice, and myself along with others have put in some effort, would it be fair to ask why you did not like the other images?
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:15 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

The goal was (and with retouching mostly is) to IMPROVE the phptograph.
And this even as much as possible.

So this has nothing to do with beauty, fashion or art.

But if someone (probably intentionally) creates a result, that is actually worser than the original, so that is surely the wrong way. (Except that special one which was no good, I did not say that the others are any bad.)

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It definitely should not drive into an extreme "beauty", "fashion" or "art" style of photograph.

I'm so confused. I guess I don't know what a realistic retouch is, your choice is what I could call a beauty/fashion/art retouch.
So your definition obviously differs from mine.

(btw: A realistic retouch is in my opinion, if the person of the picture keeps recognizeble, while the entire photograph was improved and optimized in entire expression (in the way the photographer liked it.)

Jason

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:18 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

Yup, I'm with TopiToo, had I known that it was a competition and that their may be money involved I would have asked for a detailed description of entry rules, and the amount of the cash reward, I also would have spent more than 5 minutes on it. Darn, I thought we were just having fun.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:31 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

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Hi Jason

As you have made your choice, and myself along with others have put in some effort, would it be fair to ask why you did not like the other images?

I did not say that I do not like the others!
I've merely choosen a picture which I liked most.

If that was your original photograph, wouldn't you intuitively do the same?
(And well, it was not only my desicion but also the desicion of the person on that phptograph.) So we are merely honest.


I've chosen that work, because I think I could learn most from it.
This is the way I want to have improved my pictures. The work looks most professional of all.
She has chosen this image because she liked it with first look and spontanously said : "WOW!!!" (Isn't that a greatest compliment to a retoucher - as that particular retouching work actually is a greatest compliment to her?)


And if you want to work sucessfully with customers in general, so you also have to accept their decisions regarding your work and you have to ask youself why they did not select your work.


Finally I'd like to say big thanks to all participated to this thread. All works are good. Each of the retouchings has somethin interesting to discover and to leran from. But one was the choice.

Jason.

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:41 PM
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Re: A picture (realistic portrait) to work on.

So you are free to make your choice of what you like most here!

So ignore us ...
(me, the photographer who has made the picture
and her, the person actually being displayed...)
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