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Old 04-29-2010, 11:35 PM
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Best B & W conversion

Hi All,

I was wondering if I could get a few suggestions for the best way to convert from colour to B & W in order to get the best skin tones.

I use CS3 and Capture one.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Ricardo.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:31 AM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

Best way is always the use of the black and white adjustment layer. It will let you assign luminosity values to most of the colors in the wheel. You can go subtle or over the top with it, but at all times, it will give you full control.

I'm not a fan of plugins, but, if you need good results and quick, go for Nik Silver Effects. It will not do anything that standalone photoshop couldn't do, as like most of the plugins out there, it's just a photoshop user... it just happens to be a quick and steady one.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:44 AM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

Now i like using Black & White adjustement layer ... Then adding some Local Curves/Levels with Channels etc
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Old 04-30-2010, 05:53 AM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

You might be interested in looking at the following pdf by Jeff Schewe.
http://www.schewephoto.com/workshop/...-White-DPP.pdf
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:39 PM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

thanks Tony
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:30 PM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

Thanks guys.

Tony, which of the Jeff Schewe methods would you recommend?

R.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:21 PM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

The black and white adjustment layer in PS does give you the a lot of flexibility with tonal control, but you have to be pretty careful with your adjustments there or your image quality will be downgraded quickly, it's really prone to producing artifacts if not used with restraint. Since you already have Capture One, try the black and white profiles from JFI Labs. They're made specifically for C1, are very reasonable ($20.00), and easy to use. You just use one of the film profiles instead of your camera profile, so you're doing your black and white converting and adjusting right in the 16 bit RAW file. These profiles produce absolutely amazing B&W tones, best I've ever seen.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:31 PM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

Go to Russell Brown tips page
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html
and scroll down to "CS4: Creative Camera Raw Techniques Part One"
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Re: Best B & W conversion

See third-party options here (top of page).
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:39 AM
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Re: Best B & W conversion

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....Tony, which of the Jeff Schewe methods would you recommend? R.
The one that works best for you
Seriously, it is difficult to recommend a specific - even seeing the image that you want to convert my interpretation of what looks good may be very different to your visuliasation.

Some thoughts:

If it is only the skin tones you are interested in have you looked at the individual channels? - the best skin tones are usually found in the Green channel.

As stated by others here the B&W adjustment level used with care is very good starting point.

If there are other tones of major importance I would favour the last technique shown by Jeff Schewe i.e. copying the red green and blue channels to allow better 'local' control via layer masks
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