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Old 05-15-2010, 03:39 AM
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Fashion Retouching Sharpening

I am currently trying to improve my retouching and get it to the standard of the photos you see in fashion magazines.

I am trying to achieve a good level of sharpening to do at the end of the retouch and wondered if anyone could share their sharpening process with an example picture of how it looks?
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:26 PM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

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I am currently trying to improve my retouching and get it to the standard of the photos you see in fashion magazines.

I am trying to achieve a good level of sharpening to do at the end of the retouch and wondered if anyone could share their sharpening process with an example picture of how it looks?
Read, overcome your fear of math, read again, try it. You're welcome

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Old 05-16-2010, 03:34 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

Hiya thank you for your response, Im gonna stick at it and give it a try Just a question though as I normally retouch in 8bit.

Do you suggest it is better to retouch in 16bit? I use a Canon 5D camera, is it possible to actually change a setting in the camera that means you can shoot in 16b and what are the differences between 8 bit?
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:26 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

I have attempted the technique and have a couple of questions.

I have the original layer with the blur layer over the top and then the grey layer on luminosity on top of that. i know you say this looks just like the original image (which it does) but what can I now do to the blur and grey layer to make the bottom layer sharper? Do I still need the blur layer or can I get rid of it (or does this take away information)

How do I get the original image sharp now by using the two new layers?
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:14 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

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I have attempted the technique and have a couple of questions.

I have the original layer with the blur layer over the top and then the grey layer on luminosity on top of that. i know you say this looks just like the original image (which it does) but what can I now do to the blur and grey layer to make the bottom layer sharper? Do I still need the blur layer or can I get rid of it (or does this take away information)

How do I get the original image sharp now by using the two new layers?
You need to sit and read the full thread. Ignore all the "thank you thank you Sean you're the cutest geek ever (which he is) and learn a lot of applications for this split.

A- The "gray layer" (High frequency - Details) is blended linear light, not luminosity...

B- The "blur" (Low Frequency - Contour and most color information)

A+B= IMAGE

If you remove the blur then the whole image is going to be really really sharp. But this is not the best way to do that.

Read through the whole thread, don't look for just recipes.

Splitting the image in two/more frequencies is a very very old trick, and one of the best ones. LEARN it properly and its variations.

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Old 05-16-2010, 09:28 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

Aghg sorry yeah meant linear light.

I'm still not getting it on reading the thread. im just not sure what to do with the blur and grey layer now they are sat over my image to make it sharp
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

No man, just look at both layers and see what each does. One provides blobs of color, and the other one provides the detail (roughly speaking). Now, you can modify each one independently.

Got a color problem or lighting problem?: touch the low, you can even clone the crap out of it leaving the texture alone.
Got a texture problem?: Clone the high from wherever you want*, and color will stay (almost) intact.


*even from another image.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

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Hiya thank you for your response, Im gonna stick at it and give it a try Just a question though as I normally retouch in 8bit.

Do you suggest it is better to retouch in 16bit? I use a Canon 5D camera, is it possible to actually change a setting in the camera that means you can shoot in 16b and what are the differences between 8 bit?
Are you shooting in RAW? If not, you should be.... The RAW file is your digital negative (and should never be given to clients).The RAW file should first be edited with Digital Photo Professional (Canon), Photoshop or similar.
Once edited, you can convert your file to an 8 bit TIF or a16 bit TIF file. At this point, the image is ready to be perfected with photoshop.

Here's a link which explains the difference between 8 bit and 16 bit:

http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/16-bit/
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

I've been reading the thread and trying and trying to make the image sharp but i dont know what to do with the layers now I have them to make them sharp.

I have the background layer, then the GB layer and the grey one on top

Do you apply unsharp mask to the top grey layer

Or can you apply a s shape curve with 128 stuck in the middle?

Is this what makes the images sharp?
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:57 AM
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Re: Fashion Retouching Sharpening

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Are you shooting in RAW? If not, you should be.... The RAW file is your digital negative (and should never be given to clients).The RAW file should first be edited with Digital Photo Professional (Canon), Photoshop or similar.
Once edited, you can convert your file to an 8 bit TIF or a16 bit TIF file. At this point, the image is ready to be perfected with photoshop.

Here's a link which explains the difference between 8 bit and 16 bit:

http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/16-bit/
Yeah I shoot in RAW, I was just wondering if it was like resolution in that if you don't shoot high res you cant suddenly make it high res in photoshop by changing the values.

i wanted to make sure that you didn't have to select shooting in 16 bit, I was thinking you cant add values in photoshop if it wasn't there in the first place
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