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Old 06-26-2010, 02:19 PM
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Please help - removing shadow

Hi, can someone please help in removing this shadow-fold in the middle?

I do not need someone do it for me but understand which is the best way to remove it. The texture is quite complex in that area. Need very good detail for final print.

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Old 06-26-2010, 03:23 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

You could try to select the shadow via "Select"-"Color Range" and after that use a curves adj. layer to lighten the three quarter tones and darken the darkest parts (that's important, because otherwise you'll have loss in density).
After that, blur your mask a little to get some of the details back.

Next obvious step would be some dodge and burn to perfect the job (I'll leave that one to you) :-)
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:25 PM
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Nice. Thanks, I'll try it.
Sorry, which are the "three quarter tones"?
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:09 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

If this is not the ONLY wrikle you have, I'd suggest an Inverted Highpass

Dup BG and ALWAYS on this layer do the following:
Image/Adj/Brightness_Contrast -50 contrast with Legacy
Filters/Others/Highpass with a Radius:30 (If that's the full size crop jpg)
Filters/Blur/Gaussian Blur Radius:10 (Always 1/3 of the HP)
Invert Layer
Blend Linear Light
Mask to hide
Paint with white on the mask to show the effect (Opacity from 50 to 100) over the wrinkles.

Then D&B for perfection.

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Old 06-26-2010, 10:03 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

You could try to use dodge & burn.
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:43 AM
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If this is not the ONLY wrikle you have, I'd suggest an Inverted Highpass

Dup BG and ALWAYS on this layer do the following:
Image/Adj/Brightness_Contrast -50 contrast with Legacy
Filters/Others/Highpass with a Radius:30 (If that's the full size crop jpg)
Filters/Blur/Gaussian Blur Radius:10 (Always 1/3 of the HP)
Invert Layer
Blend Linear Light
Mask to hide
Paint with white on the mask to show the effect (Opacity from 50 to 100) over the wrinkles.

Then D&B for perfection.

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Hi Godma...nice to see you here. Nope, it's not the only one I have but many thanks for your tip, i'll try it. And this is just a little part of the overal image. :-(
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:45 AM
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You could try to use dodge & burn.
Oh great to, i'll tried but don't know why i burn to much..can't obtain a good plain surface like u've done. Are u using curves or a 50% grey level to do that?
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:26 AM
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You could try to use dodge & burn.
That's why I said: If this is not the only wrinkle u have

If it's just one - you D&B

But I imagine the image is filled with them, D&B would take for ever, and with one inverted HP she can paint over all of them and it's a shortcut to get the initial evenness then you D&B a lil bit

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Old 06-27-2010, 06:32 AM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

You are great!
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:58 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

godmother,

If I recall correctly, in your video on inverted high pass you did not use the brightness/contrast as a first step. Was this because it was used on a hair adjustment? Why in the fabric adjustment?

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Oh great to, i'll tried but don't know why i burn to much..can't obtain a good plain surface like u've done. Are u using curves or a 50% grey level to do that?
...curves & softening the mask
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

Was this because it was used on a hair adjustment? Why in the fabric adjustment?


You can either use Brightness/Contrast or the scale of 2 ("Apply Image").
It's basically just two ways to get around the issues with the standard high pass (loss of shadows and highlights).
But: Apply Image is the more accurate one (just little, so you can get away with B/C in most cases).
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:41 AM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

Jonas or anyone,

It seems to me the radius/blur one puts on the Low layer is critical. Is there a rule of thumb for this? I read that small detail one should use a smaller radius/blur. Less detail, a larger blur/radius.

I used a procedure where the High layer used Apply Image in Subract and 2/128 settings. I then put a blank layer, set to Softlight blend, between the High and Low layers and painted with a white/black brush on the wrinkles. Is this right?

I did get some encouraging results, but it was not perfect. It seemed to want more dodge and burning. This is where the radius/blur setting is critical, I think.

Comments? Advice?

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Old 07-01-2010, 02:09 PM
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Re: Please help - removing shadow

You should blur the layer, until all of your good detail you want to keep is gone.
That is because all those details will be stored in the HIGH layer afterwards, protected from any LOW layer adjustments.
In between the two layers, you can create a new layer in "Normal" mode on which you paint with the according color (always pick new colors that are near but not the shadows) over the wrinkles to lighten them.

Edit: I guess that's pretty self-explaining, but you should use a lowered opacity while brushing on the layer in between.
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