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Old 07-06-2010, 06:51 PM
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what is wrong with this composite?

i have tried a few composites over the last couple of years and i really struggle to make the end result look like one photo, i try to look at things like light sources, temperatures, contrast of each image but i'm never happy with the result, like this one, i think the cafe is a good background to use but i cannot get it to look right, any tips? thanks
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:20 PM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

the shadows are wrong on his face if the light is coming from the windows
he's a bit large and out of scale in comparison to the cafe
his coloring is desaturated compared to the bright colors of the cafe - if he's closer he'd be bright and the background would be dull - now they're competing for attention
Having the background in sharp focus like that gives this no depth, it's a neat effect but takes away from the realism
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:23 PM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

imho, it all works in a slight surreal way except for two things:

1) you edge is too sharp. not only the top right shoulder but even more so the hair.
2) you need to employ "light wrapping", which is a classic feature film compositing technique that seems to be little used in stills. google it.

On the other issues the poster above bring up, I disagree. But that's just an issue of taste.
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:04 AM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

Hey, djslyda

mkunert makes a really good point about light wrapping. Beyond some problems with the direction of light, adding light that wraps around the figure gives it that sens of being three dimension and existing in space with light moving around an object. It's always been part of my composting work flow in photoshop when I'm moving on to adding lighting and shadow. Without it my objects always feel flat and the lighting unconvincing.

I don't know of many tutorial links off hand:
http://www.tutorialhero.com/click-67..._photoshop.php
But i don't like his technique

my approach has been to save the selection for the object or person your going to do a light wrap to an alpha channel and make a copy, blur the copy to whatever extent you need, and then offset the blurred layer in respect to the original and intersect them so you get a hard an outline on one side of the figure that goes from a hard outer line to a soft inner edge. use that selection on some type of adjustment layer like a curves and set it to whether its a highlight or shadow depending on which side it is. Then you can make any adjustments to it in the mask of the adjustment layer to fit the light wrapping to your object.

I hope that makes sense.

I would also agree with Nasturtium comments. Sharpens, color temp (cool or warm), saturation, light dark, are all used to indicate depth and place in space, and many of the choices you have made conflict to flatten the image out.
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:33 AM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

I agree with the above - but I also think there is a more basic issue with his position relative to the scene. ie: is he sitting or standing? he seems too high for one and two low for the other...

And yeah the biggest thing other than that is that the b/g is pin sharp, a little blur would go a long way.
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:03 PM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

You could use a horizontal flip
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:31 PM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

Chillin beat me to it. Flip either the background, or the man, and see if the lighting looks better. The lighting is the first thing that jumped out when I looked at it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:53 AM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

I agree with chillin and TimeTraveler.... My first thought was to flip the man to "match" the light source.
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:03 PM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

i don't have problem with the light source as the shadow from the face is coming from the hand.

i would agree with the second post with regards to the sharpness/focus of the background.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:03 AM
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Re: what is wrong with this composite?

My concern is the hair that is somewhat blurry but the background, with the text is very sharp.
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