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Old 07-24-2010, 01:15 PM
Tareq Tareq is offline
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Manipulation....How?

Hey all,

Long time ago i didn't come here, i miss here but i got busy in my life a bit and i forgot to come here, but i hope i will come here more often if so.

I have one pic that i really want to have it manipulated, i know many here can be amazing in photoshop and workflow editing, so i would like to see what you can do.

Here is the almost original shot
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5823/job00081.jpg

I edited it a bit slightly here for more details, i am not so good in manipulation, so what you can do to it?
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7167/job00082.jpg

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Old 07-24-2010, 01:51 PM
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Re: Manipulation....How?

Edited: Removed link, embedded photo, and provided explanation.

Here's my quick two or three minute retouch.

1) Color balance - removed green from shadow
2) Duplicated layer, replaced blue channel with green, opened all channels in top layer in lumosity mode
3) LAB, Flattened
4) Duplicated and multiplied layers with A channel (I think) used as a mask, blurred mask
5) Opened a curves layer for contrast
6) Minor retouching on blemishes
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Last edited by Stecyk; 07-24-2010 at 04:29 PM.
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Old 07-24-2010, 02:02 PM
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Re: Manipulation....How?

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Here's my quick two or three minute retouch.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7639/retouch1.jpg

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Thanks for the effort, the highlight is better here, but the overall look is way not good to my eyes, and so saturated than original, i hope people here don't go manipulated bad and they say it is manipulation anyway [not interested in].

Thanks again!
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Old 07-24-2010, 02:09 PM
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Re: Manipulation....How?

Never touched the saturation slider.

I like strong colors, perhaps too strong for you. One technique you can try is blending your original with my revised attempt.

My intent was to bring the darks and highlights closer together. The shirt is almost blown out in the original, so I want to bring more color back. And I wanted to bring out more detail in his hair and background.

Anyway, let's see what others do.
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Old 07-24-2010, 02:19 PM
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Edit: Removed link and embedded file.

Maybe this is closer to your liking with 50% opacity of my retouch over your original. Perhaps it is still too strong.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:20 PM
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Re: Manipulation....How?

I tried to follow the technique mentioned in this thread: Red Channel Mixing Mode Fun...
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:36 PM
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Re: Manipulation....How?

I uploaded the RAW file on another forum for a reason, so i will not hesitate to ulpload it here again, and show me how can you manipulate the RAW file.

Here is the file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?h44vm1dv7zknn1y

I am not sure which software you can open this file with, but Phocus is the one can open it if you can't with other softwares.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:56 PM
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My other takes:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/299/job00083.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4894/job00084.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1258/job00085.jpg
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:21 PM
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Using LAB mode, you can see that...

In your first photo
- general comment without using LAB: looks very contrasty to me, but that's a personal choice

In your second photo
- very strong blueish tint in his hair [natural, undyed hair is not blue]
- shirt is yellowish with a hint of green

In your third photo:
- blueish tint to his hair
- greenish tint to his shirt


In my opinion, your colors don't look good. I expect all your colors on the young man and his clothing should be warm (positive A, positive B colors) and shouldn't be cold.

After twenty minutes of downloading, I discovered that CS5 won't open your raw file. It looks as though you shot with a Hasselblad? For many/most of us, we need something we can use in Photoshop. You might see if you can convert your file from fff to a DNG file.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

I believe Hasselblad has a converter, though I am not positive.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:29 PM
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Using LAB mode, you can see that...

In your first photo
- general comment without using LAB: looks very contrasty to me, but that's a personal choice

In your second photo
- very strong blueish tint in his hair [natural, undyed hair is not blue]
- shirt is yellowish with a hint of green

In your third photo:
- blueish tint to his hair
- greenish tint to his shirt


In my opinion, your colors don't look good. I expect all your colors on the young man and his clothing should be warm (positive A, positive B colors) and shouldn't be cold.

After twenty minutes of downloading, I discovered that CS5 won't open your raw file. It looks as though you shot with a Hasselblad? For many/most of us, we need something we can use in Photoshop. You might see if you can convert your file from fff to a DNG file.

http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

I believe Hasselblad has a converter, though I am not positive.
Ah ok, thank you very much about that.

I need to learn and study photoshop and colors more.

Yes, i was shooting with Hasselblad, but i could open the file with CS4, so i wonder why couldn't with CS5, but it will open as normal shot small size and not as RAW, and yes, i can convert it to DNG but i have to wait another long time to upload DNG file which remains big as well.

I hope if you can download Phocus from Hasselblad website, faster than i upload DNG file, but doesn't matter, no need to download my pic, the jpeg is fine to play with
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