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Old 08-23-2010, 04:21 AM
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Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

From ModelsMayhem:
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Freq split tutorial by me on hiendworkshops. Sorry for compression, i delivered HD. Also, it's hard tu put it all in a <5 min video.

High Pass cloning tutorial on hiendworkshops

Hope it helps.
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Yeah, I recently got offered to teach at a photo academy here in Madrid starting September. It's gonna be my first experience teaching post and digital teching.

I also have another 20 minute HD video on frequency separation, but it's in Spanish. Still, i think you'll get the picture by just watching.

http://www.ojodigital.com/foro/retoq...ecuencias.html
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Ok, here's a small example.

3 Layers:
-Low
-Painted corrections in normal mode
-High


http://www.omarjosef.com/clients/discol.psd

The unsplit image was intentionally desaturated under the eye just to make a point.
Really brings home how powerful a tool frequency separation is for retouching/fixing images.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:18 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

nice share.....thank you
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:21 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

Julian, the last link does not work. It looks like an HEX-ASCII representaion of the file.
Regards, Murray
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:38 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

I had a similar issue with the file from flex and used save as and made sure it named the file with the .psd extension and it worked for me.
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:49 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

Julian thanks, that worked.
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

Thanks for sharing!
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:37 PM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

Regarding the video, I don't find it practical to blur out things on a "fashion photo" as he suggested works for a nice effect. The other thing being, his cloning was really sloppy. He shows his cloning layer at the end and it has huge broad strokes all over it. When you're not experienced with working on skin sometimes this might seem like the way to do it, because it gives you a lot of feathering and seems to maintain the lighting at first glance, but it will push the texture around a ton, even done in his detail separated method.

For minimal impact (and it's easy) i'd suggest either a background copy or blank layer set to lighten or darken. With blank layers you end up having to do all of your lightening or darkening on one, then if you want the other blending type it must be on a higher blank layer. The only real advantage is that it allows you to see where your brush went down. It doesn't blur any less or any more than the background copy, and both are easily editable given the use of history brush or eraser + re-duplication of the background.
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:55 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

I think your missing the basic point of the separation is doing for you or maybe you haven't done this yourself if you think this

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but it will push the texture around a ton
you don't touch the texture on the texture layer that way.

The key is you can actually use cloning or flat out painting on the layer between the HF and LF layer without touching the texture at all. Heres another good video I think your missing the point entirely with the statement your making:

http://www.model-citizens.com/Tutori...paration-1.flv



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tl:dnr (but the number of trolled out posts was interesting)

my method: paint the right color into the low frequency layer (or blur the blotchiness away, or a combination of the two)

while it's a lot of work to split the frequencies, i do it with every photo i process by default, so as long as i'm there, it's easy to fix the skin...

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=576703
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Originally Posted by DerW
Just the page before this one gives you two videos: http://www.model-citizens.com/Tutori...paration-1.flv, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcY0Anrd5Yk (maybe this one as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D2GZgUs9BQ although not the best example) and here's another one: http://www.digitalphotoshopretouchin...s/hair-retouch

If you've still got some questions left, feel free to ask :-).

Best regards,
Jonas
The first link has a added comma in the link http://www.model-citizens.com/Tutori...paration-1.flv

http://www.model-citizens.com/Tutori...paration-1.wmv

I am a huge fan man retouching and restoring images are made so much simpler once you understand simply where and how to retouch the different layers. I started using a surface blur on the color and low pass layer and love the results.


Here's a similar tutorial from retouchpro:
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It's out!

Here it is; with actions for download:
Skin retouching (Norwegian)
Skin retouching (google translate > english)
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Old 08-24-2010, 06:48 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

The high Frequency layer contains the texture. The low frequency layer contains the color and tone. The middle retouch layer allows correction of tone and color without touching the texture use any tools that can be set to current layer and below. The texture can be fixed with using and tools set to current layer. It's a great fast way to edit around the problems with texture and color cloning artifacts. Has many uses in my book and is now a stable of my work flow editing images has never been this fast and easy before....
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:19 AM
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Re: Great retouch video using Frequency Separation

I'm going to try that a bit more seriously. The issues it solves though aren't really my main problem.
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