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Old 10-01-2010, 05:52 AM
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Hi!
I'm having a problem with the colors on my restoration work on a picture of my grand dad. The problem is that when I save the image, the shaded neck area looks very over saturated. Anyone know why that is? A settings problem?

Also I don't mind getting pointers on what other improvements could be done.

By the way this is my first post, which i'm now rewriting cos I accidentally closed my browser window after previewing my thread =)
Anyways: Nice forum, nice people.. I'll stick around =)
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:41 AM
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Re: Colorization problem

Do you save with the save as option? in JPEG in TIFF in PSD? if JPEG, with the save for web options? Do you tick sRGB when you save?... Try different settings and tell if it happens everytimes or if it's better with one option or another...

PS: The collar seems a bit "flat" to me (because it was burnt at the 1st place) you may want to add some texture and some creases with a bit of Dodge and Burn... ( and there's one scratch left on the jumper as well...) For the rest looks OK to me...Nice work.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:49 AM
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Re: Colorization problem

Toni, Welcome to retouch Pro. You will find this site has many experts in the retouching field to help you.

I took a look at your image and felt that the skin color was a tad blue. Also the luminosity was a bit flat. Particularly around your dad's right temple area.

So in photoshop I used image adjustments/Shadow highlights to lower the luminosity of the highlights some. That helps with colorization also.

Skin has many colors in it. So at times making a special gradient helps. Get a portrait of a man with similar lighting and then using the gradient editor, construct a gradient from that portrait. Then use a gradient map adjustment layer with the layer set to color, and use your special gradient on it.

Next work on the mask on the gradient map layer to reveal or hide what you want below.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: Colorization problem

4personnen: thanks for the tips, I will give it a try. I agree about the collar as a tried to fix it just by making it darker, but it did not quite do it so I'll try to dodge and burn to create some texture. I am doubtfull of my skills in that though because i have only recently learned about the technique on this forum =)
philbach: thanks, this really helped me out. You even answered questions that I had in my mind but forgot to ask hehe (i was wondering about how to get the color variations to the skin). It's a great idea to construct a gradient from another picture, I have no clue how to do it but i'll find a tutorial somewhere.
Damned nice version added also!
greets!
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:20 AM
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Re: Colorization problem

There are so many great tutorials out there and each of them have many different approaches toward the same goals. I use a combination of many of them, especially those that best suit my abilities and give me the results that I prefer.
With yours, I made the repairs & corrections to the B&W version (changed the collar on his sweater too as you can see..) and then started the coloring by adding a general skin color to a new layer in color mode. Once I had all of the skin covered, I made an alpha channel to save the selection. Now I can add various shades of that color, or a new color by painting on a new layer in color mode, activate the alpha channel, invert it and delete any over-coloring. It also allows for any other type of layer adjustments (curves, hue/saturation, selective color, etc) to that specific selection. I continued in this manner with the complete subject.
In each case, the additions were made on a new layer (or a duplicate) so that I could vary the blend modes, use a hide-all mask to selectively apply to a particular area, add contrast with curves, sharpening etc. and not effect the the layer below if I deleted it.
Lots of experimenting ..... have fun!

Cheers!
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:58 AM
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Re: Colorization problem

Something seems askew about the redness.
His skin should be less red?

Looking at his appearance, he seems the type
to have more ashen features. Not sure why
I feel this way.
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:39 AM
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Hi toni84,

As Gary said earlier... there are many wonderful tutorials out there for learning colorization. I just did a quick thing with your photo... using RGB curve layers. Normally, I prefer to work in CMKY.

Once you get the hang of working with curve layers... you'll be amazed with the realistic color you achieve. Adding layers upon layers of color... an artist glazing a painting, many times over, to create depth

The colors in the photo are quite delicate. On some monitors, he may fairly 'white'.

Cheers!
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:30 AM
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Re: Colorization problem

I like what you have done Artistique!
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:42 PM
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Hi aartist... thanks! Hope I've helped in some way :)
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:16 PM
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Hey all. 1st time poster.
here's my take on the colorizing.
Any feedback?
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