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Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

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Old 10-04-2010, 10:01 AM
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Disclaimer: This is my first post. Please be nice

Note: This is NOT a thread requesting skin retouching tutorials or practice images--thanks.

I use three main methods of retouching skin on client images, and I would love some advice on which way looks the nicest (in your opinion). I find that different techniques work better with different portraits, but I would still like to hear what all you retouching geniuses have to say about it

Original:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...th15/skin1.jpg

Method 1:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...5/skin2_sb.jpg]

Method 2:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n.../skin4_vdl.jpg

Method 3:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n.../skin3_pwd.jpg

I use actions to set up all my retouching, so nothing really custom has been done here. Method 1 invloves extracting skin texture using the High Pass filter and overlaying it on top of a Surface Blur layer. Method 2 uses a variation on the popular "degrunge" method from byRo involving an inverted high pass layer with a small gaussian blur. Method 3 uses a custom formula marketed by Mama Shan (photoshopmama.net) -- I basically bought and then rewrote her Powder action for my own purposes.

If you think one of these methods looks particularly good, I would sincerely appreciate a reply. Thanks!

~ snuffy

(P.S.: I have purposely not included a D&B technique, as I realize that this method may be superior but is also extremely time consuming.)

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Old 10-04-2010, 10:13 AM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

If i had to choose one I would go with #2 because in the other two images, the skin is very flat. But I still think that the 2nd one looks a bit fake.
Try using different values for the gaussian blur on the IHP for different parts of the image.
Hope this helps..
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

Number 2 is the least artificial looking manipulation.

I purposefully say "least artificial" and not "most realistic" however, because they all suffer from unpleasant levels of blurring that has reduced the skin to textureless plastic and consequently none of them look good.

I see from your disclaimer that you've purposefully not included dodge and burn, presumably because you've not learnt the technique yet.

However, seeing it as "time consuming" is a shame because you are consciously choosing to ignore the only technique which actually contains an element of effort and skill - anybody can seperate frequencies and then mask on some high-pass with varying degrees of success.

Spend some time learning dodge & burn and once the initial pain is over (and it won't really be pain if you love photoshop) then you're set up for life - don't waste time or money buying actions that promise to do the work for you.

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Old 10-04-2010, 11:16 AM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

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Number 2 is the least artificial looking manipulation.


Spend some time learning dodge & burn and once the initial pain is over (and it won't really be pain if you love photoshop) then you're set up for life - don't waste time or money buying actions that promise to do the work for you.

Panth
I agree... Dodge & Burn = the real deal !!!
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:20 PM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

That image oesn't need SKIN SMOOTHING

I think the first thing you need to realize is that you don't need to SMOOTH SKIN that's a general thing.

I always say that using blur and smoothing the whole image instead of healing/cloning/D&B/IHP particular flaws is like treating a flu with chemotherapy- aka not a good idea

just my 2 cents.
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:47 PM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

wish i could pick one.
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Old 10-08-2010, 11:13 PM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

IMHO ... I think I would remove color cast first, from the original, and then go from there.
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:38 AM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

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IMHO ... I think I would remove color cast first, from the original, and then go from there.
I would second and third this.
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:47 AM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

To judge, I think we need to see a 100% crop, where the pores are much more visible.
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:11 PM
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Re: Opinion: Best Skin Retouch Technique?

Definitly all of these are "overblurred". You shouldnt use the IHP on the whole face just where its really needed and that is mostly to smoothen shadow/highlight spots so i think.
Anything else should be done by hard work with dodging and burning its the best result you will ever get! High End Agencies dont do several hour d&b for nothing. They do it cause it works best and the result is superb!!
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