whats going on here? how?

[sid_v]

Originally Posted by jaimiepeeters

sharpens like a painting? interesting to find out what thats all about

Its fractal sharpening using paint effects.

[lucija]

i had some time so i played... i'm not even sure that's what you wanted, but at least i had fun :-)

[lucija]

and here is my try :-)

[jaimiepeeters]

Originally Posted by lucija

and here is my try :-)

what exactly did you do.. will have a better look later at home, viewing on a tiny screen now.

[jaimiepeeters]

Originally Posted by DJSoulglo

You're right the blacks are never completely black, which is why your picture isn't a great starting point, as it's very contrasty.

I'm afraid I don't have 10 hours right now to do a hi-res retouch, which I would need the RAW file for as well. I'm a little busy as it is You can give me the RAW and I can do it over the next little while, an hour here and there as time permits.

What I meant is, add a Hue/Sat adjustment layer, put it on soft light blending mode (try desat 100/light +50) and adjust the opacity. Experiment with it. I'm not sure I can elaborate on that, as it really is what I meant :P

I'm working on another image with your suggested techniques and this particular one makes the image brighter, correct? desaturate completely and raise light.. I changed the opacity to about 10 and that made the image look brighter. Was wondering why brighten this way and not via more obvious tools?

Also desaturating the image should be quite clear.... then just add a Gradient map on color or overlay or something (again experimentation is key) and for the colors use some nice skin tones you want to see. For everything it's adjusting the opacity as well.

I discovered a little weird 'trick' a few weeks back and thats:

new layer, fill with blue (which blue is coherent with the result), change layer into 'difference' and change opacity to around 10-20.

This gave my images a cinematic, yellow warm feel.
here's an example of a previous series i've done with this trick
http://www.jaimiepeeters.nl/album/the+surrender/1

Just mentioning this because I see where you were going with the gradient map on color layer, to give the entire image an overal tone.

DnB if you don't know what that is, search the internet for dodging and burning or painting with light. Or search this board, plenty of info there.

Obviously I do, I DB/retouch on pixel level, never noise nor blur.

And mostly in those images there's an overarching tone, something that ties it all together, so when I say blend the color of the face with the BG, I mean find a tone that ties it all together.

Gotcha!

just trying to figure out how to DB the face to get that painty feel..
When looking at Erwin Olaf's photo's the effect is done also to the furniture, walls, etc.

[jaimiepeeters]

Originally Posted by sid_v

I've used a combination of Pro Photoshop Actions to get the look you want:

Black Coffee- for the brown tone

Glamour Retouch- for the realistic smooth skin

Dodge & Burn- Slight painting of highlights

PD Sharpen- Sharpens like a painting

regards,
Sid

you posted this on another topic... isn't this THE answer?
http://sidvasandani.blogspot.com/201...unge-look.html

[sid_v]

Originally Posted by jaimiepeeters

you posted this on another topic... isn't this THE answer?
http://sidvasandani.blogspot.com/201...unge-look.html

There are 5 different versions of grunge and shine look going on in there...with different color tones for different artists. Here you were very specific about the look, and so was I in my answer.

[uwfotoguy]

Retouch main layer
Adjust Levels or Curves
Dodge & Burn under eyes
Lighten Eyes
Inverted High Pass Filter @ 50%

What do you think?

[jaimiepeeters]

not bad not bad...

[Phaeton]

Hi Jamie
If I may say something fairly obvious to me: I think you're trying to compare apples and oranges here To me, the light in your image is relatively flat, strong and one-directional - just harsh enough to create deep shadows.
Comparing with Erwin Olaf's photography, you see how much multidirectional light he uses and how it envelops the subject do create very dimensional images. Of course there's great composition, models, props, etc.

I had a quick go at changing the light in your image, mainly by D&B contouring and a bit of colour work - no clone/heal/clean up. I did a bit of LIQ on the jawline to even it out.
I'm not sure how "painterly" this is in your eyes, but the key to it is: really good light and a hell of a loft of painting with D&B
Cheers!
Eddie

[Isedo]

Hi, that effect is a mix of d&b and the emy dresser style.
http://www.amydresser.com/
She did a webbinar here some time ago about this particular shiny effect and it's pretty simple to do.

The main goal is to setup a very good lighting and have a good shot to postproduce.
Basically what she said she does is creating one layer for lights and one for shadows, put them in overlay or soft light (your taste) and bursh on them with white and black at 1% flow (or at your taste).

It's all about lighting setup and brushing and d&b. Maybe it's a good idea to smooth the skin before doing that.

Have a nice day,
Martin

[ash_mac2001]

My quick version of this

[pellepiano]

I changed color a little, and dodge and burned away, and changed the background a little.

[jaimiepeeters]

Originally Posted by pellepiano

I changed color a little, and dodge and burned away, and changed the background a little.

really nice!!!

[jaimiepeeters]

Here's another image I did with the, and other, techniques all describe in this topic.

www.jaimiepeeters.nl/johnsofia.jpg