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Old 04-16-2011, 05:17 PM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

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i tried the inverted high pass on another image and that did bring me alot closer. I dont think though that the example you're showing is what I'm after.

here's my result with inverted high pass.. does look a bit like my topic start image, but not exactly...:

www.jaimiepeeters.nl/danielle.jpg
The lighting and posing, etc, is a lot more suitable in that image than the close crop, broadly lit, frontal facing one you provided.

Trying to get a similar look from a radically different point of departure is often a recipe for disappointment.
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:44 PM
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The lighting and posing, etc, is a lot more suitable in that image than the close crop, broadly lit, frontal facing one you provided.

Trying to get a similar look from a radically different point of departure is often a recipe for disappointment.
thats why I mentioned Erwin Olaf.. his pictures diverse a lot from well lit set ups to close ups and all have the same effect.. some more for your correctly noted reason.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:43 PM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

Here we go : http://home.comcast.net/~ai007/retouch/test-effect.jpg

Please keep in mind:
1) no attempt was made to fix face contouring, eyes, stray hair and such
2) extraction for BG replacement is lousy. I had to fix the flare on the left side of the head-cover, always use gobos to hide the light from the lens.
3) basically, it is a quick & dirty job just to illustrate the concept
4) different people have different taste, this effect is part of an overall "style", this is how I would do it -color wise-, this is how I feel about this particular one

Of course if this is a paying job, I would have done better, I would not even spend the time if it was for me. This picture needs at least 3 more hours to come out right. I already spend 3. You know by now, retouching, or rather good retouch job, takes a lot of time. I like the concept though, if, in the future, I have the time, I will most definitely continue the work on it. The face needs a lot of contorting (D&B) - looks like your light was on axis with the subject face.

I hope this comes close enough to what you are looking for.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:24 AM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

hey Aladdin..

thanks for the quick n dirty result..
although I see where you're going with this, it still doesn't have that painty feel that i'm after.

Look at this section, the hand of an Erwin Olaf picture.. it looks drawn but its a photo:

www.jaimiepeeters.nl/hand.jpg
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:25 AM
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the painterly effect you see in the hand and every where else is the result of D&B.

I mentioned in my reply above that 3 hours worth of work still needed, also mentioned that no attempt at face contouring was made, implying that I did not do the D&B step which might take up to 2~3 hours , at least not as extensive as high-end D&B.

What he does is, he D&B the edges of whatever image he is working on, it is really more on the "burn" side, this is what gives the "painterly" looks.

There really is no magic there.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:20 PM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

so making the edges darker?? = burn
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:22 PM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

I tried a tone mapping layer which I then blended into the background layer.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:36 PM
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With this edit I used the tonemapped layer with a blend to the original, but this time I decided to play the blue shawl,eye makeup and eyes against the blonde (yellow) hair and eyebrows.
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:18 PM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

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so making the edges darker?? = burn
OK, I spent few quick minutes just to illustrate the idea, same link http://home.comcast.net/~ai007/retouch/test-effect.jpg

I did some burn, it is more obvious on the lower part of her face. If I will start all over again, I will smooth the skin even further and clean up the added "noise" you see by the lips.

Godmother will be so mad at my lousy D&B job - specially that I have her DVD. Sorry Godmother!
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:22 AM
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Re: whats going on here? how?

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http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...abewerking.jpg

I'm trying to figure out how they got the painty feel in the face.
Also all of the Erwin Olaf images have the same thing

www.erwinolaf.com

nobody has yet been able to tell me how this is done..
can anybody here?
He uses a medium format camera with exquisite lighting. I saw his Dusk to Dawn exhibit (printed hyuge) and there was significant dodging and burning.

http://www.thefstopmag.com/?p=185
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