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Old 04-22-2011, 09:58 AM
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Another How Do You Do That?

http://www.jeanyveslemoigne.com/


Any help is really appreciated.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:43 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Those works are High Contrast process, something very similar to what Dave Hill uses...
Here's a link with nice tutorials to achieve this look... Composition plays a very important part in these works thou.... http://www.lookit.be/
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:45 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Okay, thanks a lot!
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:37 PM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Dude was an art director for years before becoming a full time photographer. I just found a pretty great interview with him:

http://www.thefstopmag.com/?p=1255

The retouching for that particular image was done at this place in Paris:
http://www.sparklink.fr/client/
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:14 PM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

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Those works are High Contrast process, something very similar to what Dave Hill uses...
Here's a link with nice tutorials to achieve this look... Composition plays a very important part in these works thou.... http://www.lookit.be/
that guy has some fantastic tutorials...
but he leaves out some very useful steps in his "high contrast # 1" tutorial.

he has a triple sharpening group (smart sharpen, unsharp, highpass) that he only applies to the edges of the objects/model in the photo. but he never explains how he selects the edges.

Is this simply something tedious that he does by hand, or is there a more accurate and efficient way to only sharpen the edges?

also, he has a noise reduction layer that targets everything but the edges. I'm assuming it's an inverted selection of the sharpen edges layer?

care to share some insight?
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:27 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Right moroj: He doesn't go in depth in some steps there, but if you check some of his other videos, you'll see some more info that he didn't tell on the first one, a bit complicated thou... There's where we need to create the composites and use the imagination. I guess that you can get how he does the edge sharpening, again watching the other videos...I know it is kind of difficult because of the language limit.

I'm going to paste here part of another thread, it can also help... The links are broken, but the important points are there... Where it says create a difference mask, you can just create a luminosity mask, with Difference blending mode, add a curve and play with the opacity... good luck...

"Quote from Robert Randall tutorial"

Notice how nothing I’ve said so far has anything to do with any fairy tale dragon filter.

Now, how he does it…

First of all, forget all about any dumb ass High Pass techniques you’ve been thinking of, because from what I can see, he doesn’t use them. Nor does he use a huge amount of Unsharp Mask. He uses local contrast controls through selections and masks.

For instance, look at the back pack on the other guy camera a right. Normally that item would be blocked up and lacking detail. Make a lasso selection around the back pack and ask for a layer curve. Brighten to taste. Next go to the same guys pants and do the same thing over for the pants. Now go to the sweater. Now go to the next guy and do the same thing to his little blue bag, then his sweater. Cross the hall to the guy and his leather jacket. Curve that, then his pants and then his hair. Do this local selection curve technique to anything you feel like, when finished pumping up the local contrast, go get something to drink. Come back and judge whether you’ve gone too far or not far enough, and then fix stuff to taste.

Next, make a Highlight mask like this…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/HL%20mask%201.jpg

Load it to make it active, and then ask for a layer curve. Bring highlight up slightly.

Next, make a Highlight Mask like this…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/HL%20mask%202.jpg

Load it to make it active, and then ask for a layer curve. Bring highlight up slightly more. Notice how the picture starts to take on a sense of depth and life that you’re not familiar with. Fun, huh?

Next, make a Shadow mask like this…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/shadow%20mask%201.jpg

Load it to make it active, and then ask for a layer curve. Bring shadow down just a little bit, don’t get carried away here, it isn’t the right time for it.


Next, make a Shadow mask like this, or darker yet…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/shadow%20mask%202.jpg

Load it to make it active, and then ask for a layer curve. Now play with killing any detail you might have in this local select area of the shadow. This move sets up the down side of the picture just like the HL mask sets up the upside. By now you should be experiencing a sense of depth that will keep you off the porn sites for at least an hour. We’re not done yet!

Next make a difference mask like this…

http://www.robert-randall.com/MM/diff%20mask%201.jpg

Load it to make it active, and then ask for a layer curve. Now you can play with adding or detracting density from the midtone area to help create the illusion of more density. Usually this is a darkening move, but it can go the other way too.

Now ask for an empty layer and change its mode to softlight. Note that you can also use hard light or overlay if you prefer. Wherever you see a highlight that you want to embellish, start painting white with a brush, wrinkles, teeth, cheeks, lips, what ever you like, paint until you’re eyes bleed. My way of doing this is to then blur the painted layer and add a Highlight Mask from the selection I gave you above. This is why my pictures don’t look like Jill Greenberg’s or Dave Hill’s. I use control over my painting emotional out bursts. Paint those arm and leg highlights too, don’t miss a thing!

Now do the same think with black paint on another softlight layer. Use a mask, don’t use a mask, it’s completely up to you.

If you still think there is room to screw the pooch a little harder, create a compound layer of all you have done and de-saturate it. Change the mode to soft or hard light and watch your contrast go through the roof. Still not enough? Make another compound copy and de-saturate it. Change the mode and ask for a HP filter. Give it a number of between 2 and 250 and watch that picture go thermo nuclear on you. Go to the closest mirror you can find and say the words “Fuck Dave Hill, you’re the man!”.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:20 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Interesting quote, but unfortunately, i cant imagine what are the highlight and shadows masks he was writing about.. English is not my native, so i will be very grateful if someone rephrase in simple words what the quoted guy was talking about, or better, show some masks and results of that processing.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:27 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Hi JC, what is your main language? Here are a couple of links that can help, if you are in China you won't be able to access the videos... anyways, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Chx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khnXwk-WW8s
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:36 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

Boneappetit, native is russian and ukrainian. Actually, i can understand english well, especially when it going with video or screenshots, at least (i'm talking about ps tutorials).
But reading lots of text create mess in my head, and i become unable to understand what article is about of)
So thanx for the videos, i hope they will make those mysterious masks clear to me
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:57 AM
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Re: Another How Do You Do That?

haha, glad to help!
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