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Old 06-28-2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

You worked with at least 2 excellent beauty retouchers. The proble is you don't want to pay for it - ever.

You can't keep working for trade for ever

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:28 PM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

The photos on Stefan's site look like submissions/tests. If the photographer, model, makeup artist and stylists aren't being paid why should the retoucher? I think it's fine to ask for free work, provided you're taking photography that is good enough to be published. You shouldn't promise anything if you know you can't consistently shoot great work, but then again if someone sees your website and chooses to work with you then they are responsible for making their own choices. Good luck Stefan!
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:01 PM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

4 to 8 hours... Some of the P&G work I have done in the past has taken weeks for one image! Ahh.. those were the days!
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Old 08-05-2011, 06:44 PM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

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4 to 8 hours... Some of the P&G work I have done in the past has taken weeks for one image! Ahh.. those were the days!
what's P&G?
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:03 PM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

Proctor and Gamble... Have a look at what they own.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:58 AM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

women's : when i ask for test , everyone is not paid. If i'm paid everyone is paid it's difference between test and job. i use test to test light, meet new talent .. and job is job
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:49 AM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

Sounds like you need to be giving your retouchers better markups and references. Tell them what you want cleaning, what you don't want touching, and give them a colour reference. Then they won't go missing the hair, changing the makeup and screwing the colour some way you don't want it.

It's not hard for you to process out a RAW and scribble some notes on it. Or include a text document with the delivered files outlining what you expressly do and do not want doing with the images.

Then when you find a good retoucher/company, stick with them.
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:04 AM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

lol i don't think you understand my english. I was agreeing with you and saying that it is fine for you not to pay for retouching because the photos on your site just look like submissions/tests. Why don't you post raws for a retouching challenge? New retouchers are always looking for photos to work on, unlike us they don't do their own photography or have access to equipment. If one of them posts a result you like, you can give them more work later on

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Old 08-07-2011, 07:24 AM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

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You worked with at least 2 excellent beauty retouchers. The proble is you don't want to pay for it - ever.

You can't keep working for trade for ever

Xx
GM.. what would you consider a fair rate for retouching a beauty image? Do you have "standard rates" or do you set a rate after you've seen the image? I'm not talking about commercial clients. I ask because everyone is a retoucher now charging $10 or $15 for a retouch and a lot of them are no better than I am but because they oversaturate images or make the eyes look good, people seem to like it.

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Old 08-07-2011, 08:21 AM
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Re: Hard to find good beauty retoucher ..

People that charge $10-$15 for an image are not retouchers.... They are people that have a copy of photoshop. Usually a unlicensed version at that. Known as SMUDGERS!

I have 3 cars... including a classic. I do a lot of maintainance on them... I am NOT a mechanic, and would never call myself one.

Sorry if this sounds cruel, but it is the truth. I have made my living as a retoucher since 1972. These smudgers are killing the art of retouching. Just mt 2c worth.
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