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Old 07-23-2011, 08:54 AM
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hey,thank you for someone helps! I try some texture in rock 50%,and D&B,and than but it look like no natural. if i want to get the skin of 3rd picture,how i can do? How should the other filter is it?
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:01 AM
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Hi ptptka: The 3rd picture you uploaded, is from a professional retoucher, (if i recall well, it is a work from Natalia Taffarel), and it has long hours of work in it, probably from 5 to maybe 10 hours... It doesn't have a different texture, because it is the model's own texture... In order to get to this level of retouching, you need to practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and then practice some more... Look under the threads of Dodge and Burn and Frequency Separation here in RetochPro where you can find lots of info on how it's done...

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Old 07-23-2011, 06:00 PM
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there is no good retouch without a good photo as starting point
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:42 PM
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You guys have your times off. There's nothing truly special about the detailing on that third image. If it takes you 5-10 hours per image for that stuff, you won't find a job. If this was the case how would you get through these jobs clearing 1 image/day? Detail work does take time but I think you're budgeting too long for a relatively average result.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:56 PM
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Hi kav: Maybe you are right about the time Natalia took to do that work. Maybe it only took her a couple of hours to complete it... But "average result" mmmmm I don't think so... I'd be very satisfied if I could get an "average result" like that in a couple of hours...
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:59 PM
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there is no good retouch without a good photo as starting point
I agree P fuzz... I forgot to mention it...
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:25 PM
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I didn't say it was bad or anything. That's beside the point and you're entitled to your opinion. I just didn't think the suggestion of 5-10 hours to do a cleanup of something like this was normal. It's not. Everyone has times they're comfortable with but if you are going to do that for a living, you have to set realistic times not only for budget reasons, but because people will want to see a first pass without waiting a week or more.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:45 PM
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Ok, I went out of proportion when I said 5-10 hours, in her case it could take maybe only 1 hour or :45 minutes, but for a stater as in this case it could take much more than that, at least 4 or 5 hours...

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Old 07-24-2011, 03:10 AM
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Hi ptptka: The 3rd picture you uploaded, is from a professional retoucher, (if i recall well, it is a work from Natalia Taffarel), and it has long hours of work in it, probably from 5 to maybe 10 hours... It doesn't have a different texture, because it is the model's own texture... In order to get to this level of retouching, you need to practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and then practice some more... Look under the threads of Dodge and Burn and Frequency Separation here in RetochPro where you can find lots of info on how it's done...
thank youfor your help.i will practice more and more...
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Old 07-24-2011, 05:34 PM
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Call me a shallow gal, but I'd prefer the image better if the nails and lips were both of a similar hue.
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