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Old 09-03-2011, 03:09 PM
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B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

Hello everyone. Another try to do B&W. Let me know what can be improved?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:38 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

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Old 09-04-2011, 04:10 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

Hi Nebula

It all depends on the effect you want to give. I usually do my adjustments from RGB in Lightroom or ACR to get to B&W or alternately a B&W adjustment Layer in PS.

As far as just comments on the end result. Overall if felt pretty good as an image. Here were the couple things that stood out for me

- Eyes were awfully dark yet that may be want you wanted
- Arms were left light so they stand out quite a bit especially her right forearm
"going into" her head.
- The high lighted design under her nose almost looks like nose ring/jewelry

Overall a pretty cool conversion yet the above were distractions for me. Hope that helps
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:23 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

Hi John,
Thanks again.
I should take highlight out of the hand indeed.
Eyes...mmm...yes I would say looking again into it
Ring. I am not still sure. But that's me I might look at it again and found out it is too much. I have finished that image only yesterday. You know it takes some time to convince the mindThanks.
How do you you think curving went? I had troubles doing that on my last retouching and decided to practice again on that subject?
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:57 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

Hi Nebula
If by the curving you are referring to D&B curving I would say I like the cheekbone work yet the chin looked just a tad off - possibly because the other shadows under the chin and neck are too light now in comparison, or maybe the transition from dark to light shadow on chin was too sharp compared to other shadows (not sure). Just seemed a little harsh yet we may be just talking about preference at this point.
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Old 09-04-2011, 06:02 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

It is D&B. I know what you mean John, transition on the chin is too sharp.That can be improved.I noticed that before I posted just fought I give a rest to my eyes and see what people are gonna say. I will post revision some other day. What do you think about hair?
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Old 09-04-2011, 06:30 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

From a retouching standpoint it looks great to me. I am not one to comment on hairstyles though. This really depends on what is desired by the client. I am not sure there is any "normal" out there. There was nothing that was distracting from the models face and the hair high lights were pleasing. Yet comments from someone more familiar with this industry may be better than just my comments.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:26 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

Here is some improvements as suggested earlier.sorry it took me a while to come back with revision due to some technical issues
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Old 09-15-2011, 09:16 PM
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Re: B&W Retouching. What can be improved?

It's kinda cool!!! Really has become a purely subjective thing at this point. It is kind of dark, but evokes that gothic, dark underworld type thing. Or mysterious. I think what John is referring to is the "philtrum" or the "infranasal depression" - you know, that indentation above your lip but below your nose.

I think it is a bit too highlighted as well - and looks almost plastic at that particular spot. But overall, I like it.
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Hey Neb!

I like what you did just a few things I don't like was you made it's shadows too dark specially hair. Personally I like the lights in before, that dreamy look was already wonderful. I really like what you did on her skin but because of the dark shadows I feel that the image lost it's grace.

Good luck, you have got wonderful image to work on
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