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Old 12-26-2011, 04:31 AM
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Question Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photos?

Hi

i was playing with the trial version of nik silver efex 2

generally i'm contrary to install plugins because in short with photoshop you can do almost every thing that a plugin can offer

but about nik silver efex 2 great plugin (but with a nasty copy protection , i uninstalled it , and the copy protection is still running in my system)
i liked some feature
http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefe.../features.html

1) is Amplify Blacks and Whites

how can i have the same results in photoshop ?
i use a color selective layer (absolute or relative) before converting the image b/w with another laywer
curve or level but honestly they don't obtain the same results
other feature like soft contrasts could not emulate in photoshop




about
Structure and Fine Structure , i think high pass , desaturated ,overlay masks and opaticy should do the trick

by the way , i would love really to know how Amplify Blacks and Whites in photoshop without use nik efex silver 2

is there a skill to Amplify Blacks and Whites ?

thanks
cheers
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:17 AM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

You can get the same results with Photoshop Lightroom
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:24 AM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

from the example....

set black point (and white if needed): in that example - levels [55-1-255]
contrast: something like... S-curve -> 1st point [210,210] / 2nd point [232,224]

or am I missing something?
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:04 AM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

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You can get the same results with Photoshop Lightroom
where?
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from the example....

set black point (and white if needed): in that example - levels [55-1-255]
contrast: something like... S-curve -> 1st point [210,210] / 2nd point [232,224]

or am I missing something?
i guess , did you use efex silver efex 2?
about the blacks and whites it give a different result
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:38 AM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

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You can get the same results with Photoshop Lightroom
Yup, here is a GREAT free video tutorial on using LR as well as some of the older (I’d say less useful) techniques in Photoshop including conversion to Lab for L star (we can do better <g>):

http://mulita.com/blog/?p=1244
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:56 AM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

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where?
thanks



i guess , did you use efex silver efex 2?
about the blacks and whites it give a different result
with those settings I gave you, you will get just about the same result image as the one they have shown in the example.

But if you post example what you are after it will help as I don't use nik's plugins and can't tell you more than getting a similar result in the example image:
http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefe..._amp_bw_bg.jpg
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:13 PM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

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Yup, here is a GREAT free video tutorial on using LR as well as some of the older (I’d say less useful) techniques in Photoshop including conversion to Lab for L star (we can do better <g>):

http://mulita.com/blog/?p=1244
yes but it's not even close to what the nik efex could do

but thanks!
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:35 PM
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yes but it's not even close to what the nik efex could do

but thanks!
I'm sorry but so far this "effect" does not look to do more than setting black/white points and adding an s-curve (as I showed you).

... that is not some "marketing strategy" to make it look more than it is...
is it?
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:47 PM
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Re: Amplify Blacks and Whites in black&white photo

you can check out this site which is comparing different B&W conversions:

http://www.blackandwhitedigital.com/...t/compare.html

Edit:

and this video is interesting too:

http://photoshopnews.com/wp-content/...3/color-bw.mov

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Old 12-26-2011, 06:26 PM
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... that is not some "marketing strategy" to make it look more than it is...
is it?
Sure seems to be working. Of course, some folks just want a push button effect.
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