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Old 10-04-2012, 05:31 AM
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Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

I thought I'd throw this out there to see whether I am:

a) totally alone,
b) completely insane,
c) both.

To my mind, fashion images that are printed in magazines and then scanned back to computer look MUCH BETTER than the originals? Look at the attached (for some reason I can't seem to find original/re-scan comparisons) but what do you think about this look?

The texture, the blurriess, the shine, the contrast, colour depth, messed-up rawness - it just looks infinitely better than tack-sharp precision straight-to-screen work - what are your thoughts?

I'm almost tempted to print my work and then scan it back on a cheap scanner, just to get this look.

Have I completely lost my mind, or does anyone else feel the same?!
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:25 PM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

I'm SURE it was for different purposes, but back in the day I was an assistant to some of London's top (ish) professional fashion photographers. One chap I worked for in particular would have Metro imaging, a pro lab' with 'proper' wet printing facility make some 18x12 prints that would be scanned back before going to press.

I never did work out why this was the case... it was about 5 years ago, so digital was firmly established and would have been far less hassle.

perhaps this had something to do with his look. I too love the look of scanned editorials. I would long to be able to shoot the same looks (contrasty, soft and beautifully desaturated) that I would see at http://www.bwgreyscale.com - they USED to have every fashion editorial under the sun... that was until "conde nasty" sent them a cease and desist order.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:55 PM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

Sounds like a man after my own heart!

If you're looking for fashion editorial scans (although the ACTUAL scans are declining in number) then try http://fashiongonerogue.com/daily-blog/ - sorry if i'm stating the obvious. Some know it, some don't
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:52 AM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

SO.... trying to keep this thread alive... what is going on here?

why do they look better? d'you think printing then re-scanning is the only way?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:09 AM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

It's almost un-pinpointable, but pixels are just pixels.
I guess it's a combination of the image, when compared to an original, being:

1. Darker
2. More contrasty
3. A little blurry
4. A raised, often coloured, black point.
4. Having a the texture of the paper show through somewhat.

I don't know why these appear superior. It's probably psychological insofar as my brain perceives it as "magaziney" and therefore "better".

I'd like to find a way to capture glossy magazine page texture, but without a blank grey page this would seem difficult.

In an accidental discovery that almost saddened me, I took a photo with my iphone of a very clean image on my screen. Opening that back on the computer looked much better in terms of aesthetic, despite being technically awful!
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:06 PM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

I know what you mean about the magazine look. I've been trying to get it, but so far I'm just scraping the surface. The technicians at Alien Skin, Topaz etc who produce film simulations must surely have explored this territory. Maybe they could update Exposure 4 to include a suite of Scanned Magazine looks.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:28 PM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

I know for sure, that one female world famous photographer, on certain projects is printing on thick matte paper in real offset and then eigther repro photographing the prints or drumscan them, just for getting the look the OP in this thread have discovered.

So yes, you have found one little not so very known secret some retouchers/photographers are using.

Me my selv scan or repro a lot of my own works, but most for keeping a digital storage file of the artwork. But it looks better than the original some times, yes.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:10 AM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

its just because we are doing it professionally, we spend our time getting flawless beauty so that it could get a place in the Mag. So we are bit saturated with sharpness flawless colors etc. We see at something different and suddenly we fall in love with that. Have you seen that sometimes we through away images if it has lot of differences...?? you never know one day it becomes a trend. I remember that 5 years back no one liked the pics like what we see on instagram. But now.. its a trend.. People need change.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:38 AM
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Re: Tear-sheet scans look better than original?

Yeah. 5 years ago Dave Hill was what everyone was asking about
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