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Old 10-18-2012, 07:12 PM
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Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

Just saw this. More craziness about Photoshopping. Personally, I was surprised to see what appears to me to be very minimal retouching.

shine.yahoo.com/fashion/unretouched-victoria-8217-secret-swimsuit-images-171700301.html
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:18 PM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

This is the actual link that the model herself (Douzten Kroes) posted today on her twitter. These are the majority of the photos before and after and they explain what was changed in each photo. A lot of is very minimal and mostly clothing/product changes.

http://fstoppers.com/victorias-secre...28fstoppers%29
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:58 PM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

You would think they would have a budget for at least renting necessary lighting gear for the shoot. The original look like technical failure to my own eyes.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:47 AM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

mshi, I know, right?
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:24 AM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

That's strange.

Is there really that many people in America who don't want any retouching at all? Have you been to the mall recently? Do you want those people in your swimsuit catalogs?
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:58 PM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

LOL Benny! Maybe there is a whole new market: Mall Models

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Old 11-14-2012, 12:20 PM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

Indeed this is minimal retouching, generally swim receives less for Victoria's Secret.
Campaign images receive more, albeit they are generally only moderate adjustments.

These goofy sites and people discussing "The hot topic of retouching" are generally clueless. The majority of marketing/advertising/online/print photos in the world receive adjustment. I'd estimate 90%. I'm not sure why these people think they've discovered a secret. It's not a conspiracy, it's a tool. As in any field, some are better with the tools than others.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:56 AM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

If this is what we're now getting hung up over there really is no hope for retouching. As with everything, the mob has taken an idea and ran with it to obscenity. The main thing the retouchers done in those photos is fix the photographers **** work.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

There are reasons for the initial photographs as well.

When shooting for campaigns of this sort, there will be 500-1000 shots to "get" one image. The most important thing to capture is the modeling. The model's time and the photographers time are paramount. Shoot shoot shoot. Any technical issues can be sorted out in post via Photoshop, so long as the shots are framed correctly, within the desired focal range, and the model nailed the feel. That's a victory on a shoot day.

Therefor, photos are shot in a range for the environment, that will guarantee no clipping of highlights or shadows, & a soft focus on the model (does wonders for skin clean-up in post.) This way the photographer and the model can work together and communicate with eachother to get the proper shots, without worrying about camera specifics the entire time.

From a photoshop standpoint: It also makes it easier to apply a master curves adjustment to all photos later, as they're all shot with the same settings. Ensuring there is no clipping of the highlights/shadows (flat looking) means that the technical artists receive an image with as much information as possible within the photo, before we do our job. This means instead of the image only being able to look how it was shot, it can be altered drastically in overall adjustments and still retain the necessary detail. Helpful if you want to create a moodier campaign where the lighting is a little darker than the original shot, or vice versa. Swim shots may end up with light retouching and adjustments, but for many other images the background may change, the product may change, etc.

The process looks different from what we're used to because it needs to be different. Like most things, if you make up your own mind about them, its easy to overlook sound reasoning.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:13 PM
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Re: Victoria's Secret Retouch Before/After

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
That's strange.

Is there really that many people in America who don't want any retouching at all? Have you been to the mall recently? Do you want those people in your swimsuit catalogs?
They only say they don't want retouching, until you sit them down for a photo. My wife demands that I retouch her photos. There's a reason software like portrait professional is so popular. Retouching is only bad until the critic realized how bad they look in a photo...........
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