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Old 01-31-2013, 03:38 PM
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Matching a target & destination portrait image

I have provided 2 links - one is the image I want to emulate (particularly the man), and the other is my attempt at doing so.
I tried to get close to the same lighting feel.
I made adjustments in the raw conversion and some more in photoshop and I've left those layers for you to see.
My question is:
1. How would you do it (differently) to improve on it ?
2. How can one be consistent over a series of pictures. Dragging the adjustment layers onto new pics just doesn't seem to do it.Each one requires it's own labour.
I'm fairly col blind in the red/green spectrum which makes for great difficulty.
Looking fwd to some pro responses

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69590081/to_emulate.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69590081/my_attempt.tif
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:22 PM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

I used the color balance. to get the colors.
Levels, and some healing brush.

Lighting looks good.

Here is another look. This was done in Lightroom 4 (back off with the red)
I Still like the 1st one better. The red on the nose is gone in both pictures.


You picture that you want it to look like, has almost no red in it.
Colors in the clothing should be like your favorite look also.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:27 PM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

care to share your layers ?

do you think your adjustment layers get you closer to the image I'm trying to emulate - i.e. the mans skin tone & col?

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:19 AM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

I really liked your original photo Frank and thought it was better than the one you were trying to match!
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:17 AM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

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I really liked your original photo Frank and thought it was better than the one you were trying to match!
I agree. Maybe you could try backing off the colour of the clothing and reducing some of the red areas in the face. But it's a really strong image.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:37 AM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

HSL layer and do a 'master' desaturation of the clothing or 'individual' col desat ?

My main concern is attempting to get the same skin col/tone - so are you saying it needs less red in the face - the entire face or blotches? How would you go about it?
It's very difficult for me to see subtleties of red (& green).

Wish I could 'paint by numbers' :-)
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:38 AM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

I meant just the local areas of redness in the face, particularly on the nose, below the nostril and a bit on the neck. The areas that correspond to the beard are a bit less red than the cheeks. There are lots of ways of going about it, usually involving painting in a layer mask.

Re. your colour vision
I guess you've already developed a few tricks to show colour as B&W bitmaps using Channels and the Black & White Adjustment Command. Also I assume you've already had your colour vision assessed to the point that you are fully aware of the ranges of Hue/Saturation/Lightness where the ambiguities lie. Obviously you can use the Colour Sampler in Photoshop to get a numerical readout, but it may be difficult to see which areas you need to sample in the first place.
I don't know if such a thing exists, but theoretically you should be able to set up an Action to bring up an "Out of Colour Vision Gamut" map of any image, showing you where the problem areas lie in an image. Just a thought
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:06 AM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

""Out of Colour Vision Gamut" map of any image, showing you where the problem areas lie in an image."
A darn good idea! Like figuring out the numbers above which it's 'too much red'.
mmm
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:05 PM
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I guess you've already developed a few tricks to show colour as B&W bitmaps using Channels and the Black & White Adjustment Command.
Can you please explain how exactly to do this ?
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:07 PM
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Re: Matching a target & destination portrait image

I was just referring generally to the idea of showing the colour content of an image tonally rather than chromatically. Whether you would work with a combination of Channels, the B&W Adjustment and/or other more exotic things like Calculations, I don't have the time to explore - but I reckon there is potential in that broad approach.

Regarding the "Gamut Warning" type of approach - I don't know whether you would be seriously interested in pursuing it, but there are certainly a few contributors to this forum who would probably be able to work out the best way of doing it. With colour deficiency affecting about one in eleven males, it would certainly be worth exploring. The thing is to be able to identify precisely which colours are problematic.

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