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Old 04-22-2013, 09:25 AM
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It is nice work, I have never done any scan work before. Why do you like it better than something taken digitally then post process in Photoshop? Is it for the detail of film? Is the quality that much different to justify the extra step of development? Is it a color scan?
Not sure if this is addressed to me, but I'll go ahead and answer it anyway!

When I started retouching, digital photography was still in its infancy and drum scans were the norm. I had a cursory knowledge of scanning and could do them in a pinch, but it was usually done by a dedicated, knowledgeable scanner operator. Just a few weeks ago, my studio took a job from a photographer who still shoots film primarily, and it was nice to see that again. Though looking back, I can see how the way a person scans is a crucial first step in the way the final image will look when it's completed. There is a definite art to it, and I think it's a large part of why guys like Pascal Dangin rose to such meteoric heights.
Don't get me wrong, I both like to and work on digitally captured images 98% of the time. I do try to impart some "film" quality to raw processing by processing them relatively flat so that I can dictate the amount of contrast with curves layers in photoshop.
I have personally never completed a job, printed it, and then scan the print as a workflow, but if it yielded great results, a little experimenting never hurt anyone!
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:43 AM
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Re: new technique

My last post was addressed to you! When you say "process flat in camera raw" are you using light fill and recovery to accomplish this?
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:07 PM
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No, I usually do this by taking the contrast down to -5 or so and adjusting exposure to maximize the amount of information (if it's too blown out, take the exposure down; if it's too dark, take the exposure up). I prefer to process in CaptureOne, but if I use ACR, I always take the settings that aren't exposure and contrast down to zero. Contrast can be set to -15 or so before the image starts to degrade. Point being, I don't want to introduce contrast at the processing stage, I'd rather do that with curves in photoshop.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:17 PM
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OK, I know that you are saying. Every adjustment in Photoshot messes with the light, so it makes sense not to try to adjust ACR to exactly what you want by keep it on the darker side and make a beautiful cure or level for tight adjustments. thanks
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:05 PM
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Re: new technique

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Thanks for the insight it is helpful. I agree it is hopper like in the layout and the imagery is like Mert & Marcus, using: fluorescents in a large soft box for shadow with the sun behind, then 2 relectors right and left and color gels. There seems to be a lot of PhotoShop post production also, technique like color fill and HDR because of the overall flat color and the amount of mid tones. Not sure though.
The only way to know for sure is to see the original photo. With the right image to start with this could have been accomplished just using curves.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:24 PM
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Re: new technique

Yes, but i look at more of a how to in photoshop. Not how to set up a camera shot. this can be done in photoshot at a much lower cost. Through this thread I've gotten a good idea of how to start. I has beed helpful.

-Start with a correctly lit digital photo.
-Use camera raw or Capture one to create a flat adjusted image.
-In photoshop use the HDR filter or highlights shadow to give mid tones a punch if lacking.
-Colorize areas as need be to create flat color planes, as heavy or light as you want. no need to use a color restriction technique like "LOMO" etc...
-then make tweaks with adjustment layers and mask

This Technique should be some what strait forward!
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:32 PM
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Not sure if this helps answer the question but this is what it was shot with. http://www.red.com/products/epic
Also, http://alvarorobles.com/index.html did the post.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:41 PM
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The shot is always the Hero. Retochers are just Robin to the Batman world of imagery!
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:54 PM
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Re: new technique

After more consideration Alvaro bill's himself as editor "colorist" so AKMac may be spot on in the first response to the OP.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:25 PM
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Re: new technique

Interresting what you say crazyfly1 about that it has been shot with a video camera. I have been thinking lately about how many fashion ads come with videos and that some of the magazine shots seems taken from the video. Do they shoot with a photo camera with the same scene and lighting, or are the video cameras so good nowadays that they can take out stills from the video to use in campains. And if so can some of the post have been done in After Effects?
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