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Old 10-04-2013, 09:34 PM
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How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

Can anyone give me an idea on how to achieve this type of skin retouching? I am already using a large octabank as my light source but the softness of the skin in these photos is impossible for me to achieve with my current photo shop techniques. Can anyone tell me where to start?
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:31 AM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

Could you show a sample of your image that you are working on?
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:57 AM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

I just uploaded a photo that I took recently. It is called MySample in the attachments. I'm just not sure how to get "that almost overexposed but not quite" beautiful look.
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:16 PM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

In your image I simply opened up the shadows a little and brightened the overall exposure.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:14 AM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

Your light source modifier seems fine. There are many ingredients that result in a perfect finished product, like in cooking. These are few ingredients that you might be missing. Go through the list and see if you made all of these right: model choice, position of the light, camera position, camera, lens, digital back choice, contrast, WB, software choice, makeup artist, hair dresser, clothes choice, body position, head position, face expression, etc.

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Old 10-09-2013, 06:17 AM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

Lots of local adjustments for luminosity.
Don't start with a too-contrasty raw conversion.
Separating some areas with color, mainly hair and clothes.

Pretty much all the basic stuff, but when combined with the great model, styling and lighting it gives wonderful results.

Don't try to pull off "high" fashion look on portraits, especially casual ones, it'll look silly and gimicky. Try to go for the realism in portraits.
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:21 AM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

Try reading about 2 techniques,

Frequency Separation and Dodge and Burn. First will help you clear the skin of blemishes and 2nd will help u even the skin by as skoobey wrote, a lots of local adjustments of luminocity. Rest is learning the colorization of your choice and you will be done.

Oh, and practise and practise and practise a lot.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:02 PM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

There is a much brighter Key light and a stronger fill light in all of your desired effect pictures. You need to add more detail in the dark side with a fill light and soft box. Harsher light from your key. Then of course some post processing. I would suggest playing with your original lighting setup to optimize your original capture. It will save you a lot of time in post processing.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:26 PM
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Re: How to Get This Quality of Skin Retouching

You can remove almost all skin blemishes and polish your skin with Frequency Separation and standard retouching techniques. But do you want to? I suggest again, adjusting you lighting setup and maybe use a lower aperture setting. For instance, if you are shooting F11 try going with F8 and more lighting. You will get a slightly softer image and brighter highlights. I find that it is easier to add tone to areas than it is to try and manufacture highlights.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:21 PM
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In your image I simply opened up the shadows a little and brightened the overall exposure.
Ehh.... I wouldn't do that at all. What I dislike is the lack of uniformity to the shadows, the lack of focus in the eyes (could be solved with a little work), the consistently bright background, and it could use a little color correction on lips, teeth, and clothing. I mean if you want to have that nice highlight and the shadows seen here, those shadows on the arm should be matched by the shadows elsewhere. The hair could use better definition, as it would make it more interesting. The background needs an offset in both color and falloff along the edges. While I'm not a huge fan of a vignette effect or anything remotely resembling one, I want something to make it feel less sterile, like there is some sort of defined lighting there. I don't want the edges to be that bright because they draw me off the edge of the page. The hand to me is way overly bright. I can see exactly what is wrong, but its potential is limited somewhat by the initial lighting. The OP isn't THAT far off though, which is promising.

I'm going to point out a few things. The images linked aren't excessively high in contrast. They just have a lot going on. I mean the eyes are really well done. They grab you. The irises have a touch of fill in key spots. Catch lights are just bright enough. Whites of the eyes carry that subtlety that ensures they have that feeling of convexity. Hair has a lot of detail. Backgrounds have a color which directly contrasts skin and clothing. The shadows don't feel blocked up, but where the OP is at, that arm will never come out right if you try to bring that up. You are better off just bringing the other areas down to match. It's important to see this stuff. As your eye drifts away from the main points of focus, it falls into shadow, making that area less interesting. There are key points of separation all over the place, and eyes and lips are prominently featured wherever possible.

Just getting the color offsets right in terms of making the background contrast the subject a bit better and ensuring that it doesn't look like one flat dimensionless plate like in Superman II would be a huge improvement. Then try to get the shadows and highlights on the subject to be a bit more synergetic with each other rather than all over the place. The other interesting thing in the ones attached is the color of garments. They're very prominent compared to the softer tones used elsewhere, and the features are well formed overall. I don't like the t-shirt loose in the front, as she has big boobs. It kind of makes her abdomen a bit too shapeless beneath them here. Anyway I write a lot, but I can see the potential for an immense amount of improvement.

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Lots of local adjustments for luminosity.
Don't start with a too-contrasty raw conversion.
Separating some areas with color, mainly hair and clothes.

Pretty much all the basic stuff, but when combined with the great model, styling and lighting it gives wonderful results.

Don't try to pull off "high" fashion look on portraits, especially casual ones, it'll look silly and gimicky. Try to go for the realism in portraits.
I would avoid luminosity blending most of the time. Have you considered how color perceptions are built independent of the photo? In something like the eyes, where you see the reflection of the light, you see the color of the light. The more direct surface reflection, the closer you get to the color of the light. On skin as light passes through the various layers, a certain amount is lost to heat due to the sheer number of internal reflections as it passes through layers of skin and reflects off blood vessels. That gives you the skin color in the deeper regions. Shadows generally receive their color from reflections cast by other objects, so it's reasonable to expect that shadows may have a somewhat different cast than the highlights, as they represent something closer to the perceived color of what they're reflecting than the initiating light source itself. I thought I told you all of this.
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