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Old 11-04-2013, 09:06 AM
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It is true, and I did find it be a steep curve to conquer, yet now that I understand what I am doing, I find it to be really "analogue", which I like. As someone who never dealt with film, and gone digital first, now I understand both.

Imagine, how tough it would be form someone like me to enjoy film processing, if Photoshop were a completely linear experience.

I think it will get more "to the point" with cc, but that might me unfortunate for people who use it in other fields (science etc.).

As for wast color spaces... well I do understand that when someone tells me: this is going to be printed on Epson bla bla, here's the color space you should use, but for everything else, I found Adobe RGB and LAV to be most predicable.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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Imagine, how tough it would be form someone like me to enjoy film processing, if Photoshop were a completely linear experience.
This has nothing to do with anything. We get hung up on qualities of film that were inherent to the medium. Trying to achieve the same look is a highly inductive process, as creative processes are, but the role of a piece of software is to impart control, nothing more. Tools are generally meant to be predictable. You would find that most photographers chose films and +1 +2 -1 -2 etc. processing based on past results. Beside that it would likely be easier to create a series of LUTs with a linear lookup assigned to sets of data. With ICC profiles the data bounds are drawn quite early, and large gamuts do not work due to the way things are quantized. Gamma encoding in general is just a way of dealing with a limited dynamics range. Your suggestion doesn't help pull more of a film look from your digital camera files. If anything it's more restrictive.

Regarding Epson, it's not really a guarantee that it will only be reproduced in one place. Predictable results that do not cause unintended temperature fluctuation within certain subsets of colors and subtle bugs due to uneven value distribution is a good thing. whenever the topic comes up though someone always misdirects to the topic of non-linear human vision and color perception variations due to age, color blindness, etc, yet it has minimal impact on making predictable calculations. I look at a lot of software and just see the many hacks that remain for legacy reasons, even if they have started to update certain algorithms. Here's an example. Brightness/contrast changed with CS5. Unsharp masking still uses an inverted gaussian distribution. I'm curious how something like a lanczos filter lookup would work on de-mosaiced raster data.

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