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Old 02-20-2015, 02:39 AM
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Lightroom/ACR healing brush

In the latest show with Chris Tarantino he mentioned that the healing brush in Lightroom and Camera Raw is superior compared to the healing brush in PS. I'm not sure I got in what way it's better. I always felt healing with LR is slow and cumbersome, but it might be the actual results that are better.

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Old 02-20-2015, 03:02 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Because once you develop the RAW, you no longer have all the details at your disposal, meaning you loose some in the blacks and whites, but if you heal in ACR, it pulls maximum detail from the source area.

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Old 02-20-2015, 04:18 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Makes sense. Is it big enough reason to use ACR in portrait retouching compared with flexible brushing features in PS?
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:53 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Well I always go with a personal preference, hence if a solution yields results which are a bit better but it's either sluggish or not enough 'responsive' I'm going with something "good enough" but quicker.

That was the reason I was using Lightroom for a couple of years before switching to C1 even though the latter had way better colour but was too slow for me and I was able to correct the balance later on.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:53 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Short answer: I only use PS.
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Old 02-20-2015, 12:37 PM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Better is subjective. What's great about such tools in a raw converter is they are just sets of instructions and easily updated without any speed or image quality hit. What makes it different is you can brush something in, do it really 'hot' and obvious to see what you're doing, then using sliders, alter at great length and into the future (unlimited history). Photoshop can't do that. Different toolset. If you can do the work in the raw converter without duress, go for it. If not, do it later in Photoshop. There are some selective corrections LR/ACR can do faster and better than Photoshop and some not so much.
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Old 02-20-2015, 02:01 PM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

Thanks Andrew, well put. I never thought the feather and opacity values could be changed after the fact with the healing/clone brush in ACR - I always thought they behaves as in PS. If LR 6 is going to have GPU acceleration, maybe it's going to be even more viable option in this regard.
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Old 02-21-2015, 06:52 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

I think, besides speeding up, LR could benefid from an improved color engine which still lacks behind C1. It's not that apparent in landscape or any kind of journal shots but skin tones rendering still sucks compared side by side to an initial output you get from the competitor.
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Old 02-21-2015, 08:13 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

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I think, besides speeding up, LR could benefid from an improved color engine which still lacks behind C1. It's not that apparent in landscape or any kind of journal shots but skin tones rendering still sucks compared side by side to an initial output you get from the competitor.
I don't know about the actual color as in hue, but in things like smoothing out color transitions in skin, it's not even an option in LR. But, who knows, LR6 is around the corner.
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Old 02-21-2015, 08:19 AM
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Re: Lightroom/ACR healing brush

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I don't know about the actual color as in hue, but in things like smoothing out color transitions in skin, it's not even an option in LR. But, who knows, LR6 is around the corner.
Yes! Finally someone has noticed the transition thing!

Having said that, I seriously doubt they fix it - it has been like this for years...
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