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Steven Klein, Mert and Marcus, all frauds.

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Old 03-25-2015, 03:19 PM
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The Polaroid was the closest you got to a before/after; the others looked more like behind the scene grabs. But in either case, not even a rank beginner (like you?) would schedule a week to fix a hairline.

If you ever take a picture for yourself, let us have a look.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:22 PM
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The Polaroid was the closest you got to a before/after; the others looked more like behind the scene grabs. But in either case, not even a rank beginner (like you?) would schedule a week to fix a hairline.

If you ever take a picture for yourself, let us have a look.
Oh I've taken lots of pictures, I'm just not a mediocre delusional quack like you who can't even see that the before pictures I posted were in high q resolution which means that they couldn't possibly have been polaroids or behind the scene grabs but are actually Steven Klein and M&M shots, they literally shot that, which is garbage. Not my fault you are as much a fraud as they are, hence why this thread bothers you.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:31 PM
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Oh I've taken lots of pictures, I'm just not a mediocre delusional quack like you who can't even see that the before pictures I posted were in high q resolution which means that they couldn't possibly have been polaroids or behind the scene grabs...
Yes, shot with a mighty Canon PowerShot G10:

http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&refer...b20o1_1280.jpg

Loser.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:40 PM
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Yes, shot with a mighty Canon PowerShot G10:

http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&refer...b20o1_1280.jpg

Loser.
lol so? Isn't that what rapist/pedophile Terry Richardson, another notorious quack, uses?? lol, they don't even bother with proper resolution, the picture will be built from scratch on photoshop so who cares. They are basically paintings when they reach the printed page.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:58 PM
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..........They are basically paintings when they reach the printed page.
Ahhh! Now (at last) you've said something interesting. Could it possibly be (in your world) that there might be some validity in digital "painting"? And would it be conceivable that a digital artist might choose to begin the process by taking some photographs? And if so, wouldn't that artist/photographer make decisions about how to go about taking the photographs based on an idea or vision of the final outcome? Would you expect the artist/photographer to spend valuable time and money capturing 'classic' images which were totally irrelevant to his/her final intentions? Would it be fair to accuse the artist of being a fraud based solely on the qualities of the captured images without any understanding of the ultimate intention? At least try to play along with this scenario for a couple of sentences before using your favourite words - "Fraud", "Mediocre" etc etc
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:10 PM
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Ahhh! Now (at last) you've said something interesting. Could it possibly be (in your world) that there might be some validity in digital "painting"? And would it be conceivable that a digital artist might choose to begin the process by taking some photographs? And if so, wouldn't that artist/photographer make decisions about how to go about taking the photographs based on an idea or vision of the final outcome? Would you expect the artist/photographer to spend valuable time and money capturing 'classic' images which were totally irrelevant to his/her final intentions? Would it be fair to accuse the artist of being a fraud based solely on the qualities of the captured images without any understanding of the ultimate intention? At least try to play along with this scenario for a couple of sentences before using your favourite words - "Fraud", "Mediocre" etc etc
Again, the key word here is discernment. The wisdom to know the difference. Are there digital artists in the world? Yes they are. Some of them are photographers, some of them are not, and they work in the digital medium, there is nothing wrong with that, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what I've said on this thread.

The retouchers that work with Klein and the fraud posse are not sitting down with them to create digital art. This retouchers are there to fix the major technical fuck ups of their raw photographers. There is nothing artistic about it, there is nothing collaborative about it, these retouchers don't even get the credit they deserve. These images are MADE by the retouchers. If they weren't, there wouldn't be such an abysmal gap between the raw files or negatives and the final image, which there is. Not only that, but there are serious photographic mistakes.

And you are a hypocrite because you are comparing what retouchers do with these quacks, with what digital artists do, and that is so disrespectful because you're basically saying that the retouchers are as responsible for the final image as the photographer, yet where is their credit? Where is their name? You are so hypocritical.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:20 PM
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ah, blohard; the gift that keeps on giving...
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:32 PM
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Again, the key word here is discernment. The wisdom to know the difference.
This from the guy who thinks Polaroids and Powershot G10 images constitute "high q resolution which means that they couldn't possibly have been polaroids or behind the scene grabs..." and who thinks it takes a week to retouch a hairline.

Yup, Mr Wisdom and Discernment himself is holding court. Mr Bloviated Blohard himself.

But please don't stop, you're picking up moment now.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:34 PM
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This from the guy who thinks Polaroids and Powershot G10 images constitute "high q resolution which means that they couldn't possibly have been polaroids or behind the scene grabs..." and who thinks it takes a week to retouch a hairline.

Yup, Mr Wisdom and Discernment himself is holding court. Mr Bloviated Blohard himself.

But please don't stop, you're picking up moment now.
Are you an imbecile with no reading comprehension? Read again.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:18 PM
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The retouchers that work with......the fraud posse (presumably Mert and Marcus) are not sitting down with them to create digital art.
That is EXACTLY what they ARE sitting down with them to do. You are so wildly off the mark. Retouching has evolved. It's more than fixing hairlines, it deals with a whole world more than that.
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