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Old 05-02-2015, 01:51 PM
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For me, anything beyond arithmetic is mathematical and usually obscure.
Me too. But I don't recall seeing much if any arithmetic around these parts. I have seen discussions that seem geeky without the math.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:48 PM
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I'm not suggesting anything is broken or needs fixed. This is THE top forum for retouchers and there are always vibrant and informed discussions going on. I just feel at times that there's a tendency for things to drift into the realms of abstract/theoretical/mathematical, and I wanted to suggest that those contributors with a high level of specialist knowledge should bear that in mind and maybe try to use terms that are more accessible.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:14 PM
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I just feel at times that there's a tendency for things to drift into the realms of abstract/theoretical/mathematical, and I wanted to suggest that those contributors with a high level of specialist knowledge should bear that in mind and maybe try to use terms that are more accessible.
Dually noted. Let me suggest that none of this is something we are born with, we all have to struggle to learn terminology be it abstract, theoretical, and/or practical. I didn't know what a clone tool was prior to 1990 any more than what chromaticity or gamut means later on. If something is discussed that doesn't make sense, ask the person to clearly the point or ignore it. Some terms can't be made more accessible but they can be clearly defined.
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I'm not suggesting anything is broken or needs fixed. This is THE top forum for retouchers and there are always vibrant and informed discussions going on. I just feel at times that there's a tendency for things to drift into the realms of abstract/theoretical/mathematical, and I wanted to suggest that those contributors with a high level of specialist knowledge should bear that in mind and maybe try to use terms that are more accessible.
That would probably kill about half my posts. I actually started making more technical replies to clear up misconceptions though. Some people treat intuitive descriptions as definitions, which leads to bad advice. I don't really post anything too complicated in here. The most I've done is include a link to wiki or wolfram alpha.
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For me, anything beyond arithmetic is mathematical and usually obscure.


Well, for me, a big red light started flashing when I saw the word quantization.

"Sorry boss, couldn't get that work out. Too busy doing the quantization for the LUTs I was making."
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:38 PM
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I like to know the math behind the tools! When you have an idea of how the tool works, you can predict how this tool would work on a different task, or you can imagine how it would work on a completely different workflow.

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"Sorry boss, couldn't get that work out. Too busy doing the quantization for the LUTs I was making."
And actually in that sentence, the word LUT is more geeky than quantization.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:50 PM
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And actually in that sentence, the word LUT is more geeky than quantization.
That shouldn't be that uncommon. Anyone involved with video at almost any level has seen the term LUT. You'll also see that term when purchasing a suitable display. It's not like anyone refers to highly technical aspects in their day to day stuff, including those with the background for it.

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Well, for me, a big red light started flashing when I saw the word quantization.

"Sorry boss, couldn't get that work out. Too busy doing the quantization for the LUTs I was making."
You really didn't notice that I used that word to respond to its prior usage? Normally I would just say noise or banding. People are used to those two, and they provide an accurate description of the impact, as opposed to referring to their indirect cause (speaking of which I've used various things to remove both in photoshop).
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Old 05-03-2015, 08:51 AM
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That shouldn't be that uncommon. Anyone involved with video at almost any level has seen the term LUT. You'll also see that term when purchasing a suitable display. It's not like anyone refers to highly technical aspects in their day to day stuff, including those with the background for it.
That is exactly my point. This is a very technical field, and if you look at Photoshop or any other image editor, it's full of mathematical terms, and most of the time artists are dealing with very advanced concepts in a very natural way.
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Old 05-03-2015, 05:12 PM
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That is exactly my point. This is a very technical field, and if you look at Photoshop or any other image editor, it's full of mathematical terms, and most of the time artists are dealing with very advanced concepts in a very natural way.
It's probably just an issue of naming conventions. It occurs to me that people are used to reading gaussian blur or gradient. Calling something by a proper name is just a vague hint as to what is actually implemented. Photoshop varies in that regard, as they do use mnemonic descriptions for some things.
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For me...I'll just "Speed Read" or even "Skip" through sections I guess ill not be too interested in at the time.
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