RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Photo Retouching "Improving" photos, post-production, correction, etc.

Accidental Banding Trick???

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-05-2015, 04:28 PM
nrotunda nrotunda is offline
Junior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 27
Question Accidental Banding Trick???

Can someone please tell me why this worked because I have no idea!! I'm working on some images of a model against a dramatic sky. The photographer wanted the sky dark with vignetting. I'm working in 16-bit and was getting banding in the sky on all images. I tried the old trick of adding a 50% gray layer, soft light, and adding noise, but it wasn't working at all and I was about ready to simultaneously pull my hair out and cry. Then I created a stamp visible layer on top of all layers (I don't know what I was going for here) and when it completed the banding disappeared. I did nothing, no blending mode, no blurring... nothing just a stamp visible layer. Why did this work??? And did it actually work? Will banding show up on another monitor? As far as I know these are for web only.

Thanks yall!
Reply With Quote top
  #2  
Old 05-05-2015, 05:00 PM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Doug Nelson Doug Nelson is offline
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,068
Blog Entries: 21
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

What was your zoom level when viewing? I've discovered some small adjustments don't really show at 100%. Perhaps your baking in the adjustment layer fixed this problem, as it wasn't viewing an adjustment anymore.

I tried to simulate your problem, but couldn't deliberately get PS to band.
Reply With Quote top
  #3  
Old 05-05-2015, 05:11 PM
nrotunda nrotunda is offline
Junior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 27
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

I was at 12.5% when I made the stamp visible layer and saw the change. Now that I'm looking at it again, I only see the banding when zoomed out
Reply With Quote top
  #4  
Old 05-05-2015, 05:16 PM
nrotunda nrotunda is offline
Junior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 27
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

But that's normal right? I definitely saw the banding disappear when zoomed out
Reply With Quote top
  #5  
Old 05-05-2015, 05:26 PM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Doug Nelson Doug Nelson is offline
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,068
Blog Entries: 21
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

Things might have changed with CC, but Photoshop used to only offer truly accurate views at certain increments. I thought 12.5% was one of those, but I could be misremembering. Views at other zoom levels were interpolated.

Run your cursor over the band with the info panel open. If the value suddenly jumps right at the band edge, it's really there. If it doesn't, it's a display artifact.
Reply With Quote top
  #6  
Old 05-05-2015, 05:54 PM
skoobey skoobey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,376
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

Only believe the image at 100%. This is a well known occurrence.
Reply With Quote top
  #7  
Old 05-05-2015, 06:01 PM
nrotunda nrotunda is offline
Junior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 27
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

Ah got it. This makes me feel better. I really don't know enough about this topic. Do you have any good articles or resources so I can learn about it?
Reply With Quote top
  #8  
Old 05-05-2015, 06:19 PM
nrotunda nrotunda is offline
Junior Member
Patron
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 27
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

Also, what do you say to clients if they see banding but you don't see it at 100%?
Reply With Quote top
  #9  
Old 05-05-2015, 07:17 PM
skoobey skoobey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,376
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

I tell them to buy a decent monitor and look at images with professional software.
Reply With Quote top
  #10  
Old 05-05-2015, 07:45 PM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Doug Nelson Doug Nelson is offline
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,068
Blog Entries: 21
Re: Accidental Banding Trick???

That's a stronger version of what I'd tell them. If you know there's no banding and they see banding, ask them to try a different monitor/computer. Same thing I tell the occasional user that can't watch my videos or join my shows.
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Banding Rust Photo Retouching 9 01-30-2013 10:32 AM
Gradation banding remedies? Repairman Photo Retouching 22 05-19-2012 06:12 AM
Gradient Banding Help nowheremanphoto Photo Retouching 11 06-08-2011 01:35 AM
Weird banding Brentnauer Photo Restoration 6 02-16-2011 10:22 PM
Removing banding texture. FFT Filter for MAC? SBNL Photo Retouching 12 12-15-2010 05:17 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved