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Old 03-03-2017, 08:29 AM
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I use luminosity masks for that, not blend if sliders. Color balance works great when used locally.
Depth can never be achieved any other way than DNB because it'll look choppy. You want smooth transitions.
So if a light mask (light+++) is applied as a mask to a color balance adjustment layer then one would move the highlight slider?
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:36 AM
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Instead of creating all the masks in the channel palette one more way of thinking of this is to use a photo filter adjustment and then apply image ("invert" for shadows). The mask can be tweaked with the level tool.

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Old 03-03-2017, 10:02 AM
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Re: Golden sunny tint

Anyway, GUY BOURDIN achieved the perfect skin tones long ago and I am aiming at the same..

http://www.polkadotpattern.it/_mamaw...in-740x494.jpg

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Old 03-03-2017, 11:43 AM
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You mean his printer did. We are all aiming for the same, but being the best, or among the best is unobtainable for many(myself included), so you do your best, not someone else's. Don't forget that those are all good photographs. With many images, there is so many things wrong, that getting the perfect result is just not feasible.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:21 PM
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Re: Golden sunny tint

Bourdin is from a different time, and even then it was a combination of things. That could have been a combination of film, processing, tan models, and printing. You could have achieved something close to that if you followed my suggestions.

Mask your skin. Anytime skin looks so different from surrounding elements, you should consider masking. Tone down the bright regions when it's appropriate. You seem to do things which add contrast, when these actually have a very low density range. You don't need to sample anything to see that. You use the simplest adjustment layers possible to darken things as necessary. You make sure juxtaposing elements contrast these skin details. You detail via a bit of dodge and burn.

Alternatively, learn Python. Actually do that anyway. Python is fun.
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Tone down the bright regions when it's appropriate
I understand that here is where luminosity masks will come into play.

I come from Perl; hopefully Python is as fun.
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I understand that here is where luminosity masks will come into play.

I come from Perl; hopefully Python is as fun.
Perl is a very strange language. I don't do that much programming in general, but I pointed that out as it's a better format for low level stuff. It has a lot of image processing tools that are designed for low level tasks that do not require any kind of paint based interface.

I have never used luminosity masks for this purpose. I would usually determine if something was too bright by proximity. There are places where I expected to see highlights. I toned things down if I had to address a larger region where excessive brightness made the subject look flat or pale.
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Re: Golden sunny tint

Back to retouching for pre-press I wonder how plug-ins like the following manage to give advantage to the user instead of a plain Photoshop color correction workflow:

http://www.plugsandpixels.com/coco.html

"Aurelon CoCo works in a fundamentally different way than Photoshop. Colors are corrected in accordance to the relative distance to the source color. The range function keeps CoCo fully in control. Aurelon CoCo offers a very smooth transition from corrected colors to colors which have not been corrected. The result: retention of light and shadow parts, and a natural change of color. Aurelon CoCo gives a smoother result than Photoshop, especially when working in soft tones."
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Old 03-05-2017, 08:48 PM
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Re: Golden sunny tint

That sounds like something written by marketing people who don't understand the underlying product.
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That sounds like something written by marketing people who don't understand the underlying product.
Yes! By the way, I've found something similar to the plug-in above and for windows as well:

http://dl-c.com/site/products/buy-cm.php
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