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Old 09-26-2002, 04:42 PM
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Color Matching - Prints and Monitor

In trying to match my monitor to prints I make on Fuji Frontier and /or Noritsu digi printers I have been reading (not always understanding ) everything I can find about Color Profiles, Color Management, Color source, and monitor calibration. I had been advised to calibrate my monitor and did using AdobeGamma.

I had a eureka moment and realized I could do this while a photo is in open in PS .Color started to improve.

Open a photo, then
go to Start menu>Settings>ControlPanel>AdobeGamma
Put the control panel on the task bar (click on -) so you can see the photo and use the wizard from there. You can move the wizard screen to a convenient place so you can see your photo.

In reading very detailed info on a site by Norman Koren I came across this tidbit of info:

"Programs that utilize color management are described as being ICM aware, where ICM stands for Image Color Management. ICM standards are maintained by the International Color Consortium.
Device color response and color spaces are characterized by files called ICC profiles, which have the extension, ".icm." ICC profiles are stored in specific locations on Windows computers.

Windows 98, ME Windows\System\color
Windows 2000 WinNT\System32\Spool\Drivers\Color
Windows XP WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color


You may need to do some bookeeping in these directories because problems can arise when more than about 30 profiles are present. Since profiles are loaded by profiling programs such as MonacoEZcolor, Windows, image editors, and device drivers, the number of profiles can easily proliferate. I recommend creating a subdirectory called "Unused profiles" for profiles you don't expect to use. "

Above found at http://www.normankoren.com/color_management.html

I went to my Windows location and discovered 100's of profiles on my second hand computer. I removed all that had a date earlier than I owned the computer and lo and behold a lot of color awareness suddenly happened. When I change profiles or color space I actually see the difference. I know I am on my way to matching my monitor with prints made on Fuji, Noritsu.
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Old 09-27-2002, 11:26 AM
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Wow, you really did do some home work didn't you? That part about systems storing 100s of profiles and many unusable makes alot of good sense. I will have to look into that and see what I have. I'm using XP. Also that link looks like a valuable peice of info on what is truly a very confusing subject. Thanks for the great bits of info.
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Old 11-24-2002, 11:52 AM
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Hi
I have tried this technique for adjusting the colour to match the printer but still find that the printer tends to enrich the colour compared to the monitor. Which part should I be changing to rectify this problem? Sorry about the extra "u" in colour but us brits have always been long winded!!
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Old 11-24-2002, 12:28 PM
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Hi Ben,
In View there is a pull down for Proof Setup. In there are many profiles set up for a variety of printers, especially Epson and HP. They are supposed to allow your monitor to display an even closer printed match. My printer is not compatible so I cannot be sure if this is so. But I have set up my Monitor and Scanner and when I change to these setting it seems to be on the money. Epson also has downloadable profiles for specific printers on their website, I believe HP may have some also. If you are willing to use up ink, you can also set up a custom profile to better match the colors you are printing. Hope this helps.
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:18 PM
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Hi Debbie
In my View>Proof Set Up there is no mention of printers. I am using PS6.
There is Custom and there are 6 different Working CMYK, Cyan Plate etc. the Mackintosh RGB, Windows RGBand Monitor RGB. Am I looking in the right place?
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:30 PM
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Ben,

My printer consistently gives me prints with more saturation than I see on my monitor. I've used MonacoEZcolor and still have the over-saturation problem. I think I might be able to solve this by tweaking the ICC profile that Monaco produced for my printer, but I find that simply adding a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer and reducing the overall saturation of my image by -15 just before printing works well for me.

If the colors seem right but just too saturated, you might want to try that.

Jeanie
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:35 PM
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Sorry Ben in the proof set up is a line for custom. click on it and it will bring you to a dialogue box with drop down lists.
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Old 11-26-2002, 07:32 AM
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I have found the printer set up for my printer and have managed to get a pretty close match printer to monitor. My thanks to everyone again.
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:44 AM
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My best friend and I were JUST talking about this tonight and I ran across this thread! What luck. Thanks for all the tips, I am gonna try them out, see what works best for my printer.
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problems can arise when more than about 30 profiles are present
I went to the color management folder in Windows and I've got more than 100 different color profiles...

How do I know which ones I can delete?
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