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12-02-2002, 03:59 AM
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| | Hi Jaz!
As I usually tend to stick as much as possible to the original, I'm probably the wrong person for helping you in this, but I gave it a try....If a complete make-over was your target, you'll be disappointed but here is what I did:
After softening the picture (removing lines, shadows etc.),
1) I removed the second catchlights from her pupils and changed her eye colour to green (the colour of your choice in your version)
2) Using the green from her eyes in addition to a warm brown and a touch of gold I enhanced a bit her eye make up
3) I added a touch of reddish gold to make her hair colour more warm and more vibrant
4) I sharpened the image a bit using the High Pass Filter
5) I highlighted cheek-bones, lips and other parts of her beautiful face using Overlay and Color Dodge Adjustment Layers
6) ....and finally I duplicated the final Layer, strongly blurred it, set the blending to Soft Light and adjusted its Opacity until I was satisfied....
....I'm sure you'll get more and better tips for a complete make-over..... | 
12-02-2002, 03:59 AM
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| | | Your technique isn't the problem. I would suggest you look at some women's magazines for some ideas on makeup. (I don't know about the other women, but I hate blue eyeshadow.)
Actually, if you search the forums here, you should be able to find a thread about this very topic!
Vikki | 
12-02-2002, 05:00 AM
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| | | I didn't change any of her makeup, just enhanced her eye color. | 
12-02-2002, 06:16 AM
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| | | Missing the point I appreciate your responses but I think a point is being missed. I didn't want to just soften the picture and eliminate wrinkles. If so, I would have just done this:
(30 second image twiddle) http://www.jackzucker.com/images/sandesoftorig.jpg
I'm trying to learn to do digital makeup. Yes, I know the results are a little over-the-top ! Anyone know the other thread id that this subject was mentioned about?
Jaz | 
12-02-2002, 08:08 AM
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| | | <<Shan or someone...Help me please! :-)
I'm trying to get better at digital makeup. I've got Kevyn Aucoin's books
but would appreciate any help you could offer. Perhaps a tutorial on this
subject?
Thanks!>>
I though this post looked familiar on another site.......Adding to the above......Try Katrin Eismanns' book "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching" ....Chapter 10 Glamour and Fashion Retouching. | 
12-02-2002, 08:16 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by john_opitz <<Shan or someone...Help me please! :-)
I'm trying to get better at digital makeup. I've got Kevyn Aucoin's books
but would appreciate any help you could offer. Perhaps a tutorial on this
subject?
Thanks!>>
I though this post looked familiar on another site.......Adding to the above......Try Katrin Eismanns' book "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching" ....Chapter 10 Glamour and Fashion Retouching. | I have Katrin's book. It's amazing. She does not really cover makeup very much other than a passing comment or two about mascara. | 
12-02-2002, 10:32 AM
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| | | Jaz,
My apologies.
I misinterpreted your request.
It just occured to me that if you did a search for "theatrical makeup" you might get some results you could use.
Also, many of the 3D program users have tutorials for creating women's faces.
Vikki | 
12-02-2002, 10:35 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Vikki Jaz,
My apologies.
I misinterpreted your request.
It just occured to me that if you did a search for "theatrical makeup" you might get some results you could use.
Also, many of the 3D program users have tutorials for creating women's faces.
Vikki | Thanks Vikki. I have seen the tutorials for creating women's faces. I need to go through those and see what I can use. There are some really good techinques embedded in that stuff including drawing hair, etc.
The kevyn aucoin books are amazing resources for makeup but they are predicated towards applying it the old-fashioned (analog) way! :-) | 
12-02-2002, 11:39 AM
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| | | Re: redhead Quote: Originally posted by chiquitita I think she would look great as a redhead! | You must not have seen my original posting! http://www.jackzucker.com/Photoshop/sandemakeup.jpg | 
12-02-2002, 04:28 PM
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| | | Jazz. Jakalenna posted a tutoril on retouching hair and face and told where you can get Bruces color charts for photoshop 6. I have seven but I downloaded and printed the charts, and I use them. Basically the least you hand paint the better you are. I use the magnetic selection on the hair and face and edit fill and fade fill, always in a new layer and it works out great. From what I have found everybody like Katrins books and I know she has video tapes of all these subjects. | 
12-02-2002, 09:11 PM
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| | | Hey Flora I was looking at your image again and after closer inspection, I think I like yours the best. The eye shadow looks wonderful.
Can you give me more details about how you brushed that on? Did you brush it on at low opacity and then use a blur to feather it?
Great job! :-) | 
12-02-2002, 09:12 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by chiquitita A darker redhead... | No offense but I don't think that's very flattering! :-) | 
12-02-2002, 09:30 PM
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| | | I don't think I can answer your question - but I think I can help by asking a couple of questions.
Just to be sure - we are all so used to enhancement - do you mean digitally applying; Foundation, lipstick, lip gloss, rougue, eyeshadow, etc?
Is it not so much an issue of whether it is in good taste but how to do it so that it looks real? Like the make-up was put on before the photos where taken?
Since I can't help you with the best way to do these techniques, "I will take my answers off the air"
Roger | 
12-02-2002, 11:56 PM
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| | Hi Jaz! Quote: |
Did you brush it on at low opacity and then use a blur to feather it?
| Yep....That's exactly what I did.....I used a 10-20% soft airbrush to paint on the eyeshadows, (on its own layer), careful as not to obliterate the line of the natural eye-fold, and then I blurred it....
Thanks for your comment! |
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