duplicate image without copy name is on the prompt

[ajidehak]

sir.unimatrix001, u good understand my wanted. ok

and i know how work on win and photoshop. and i know win can not create two file with the same name on one folder. okkkkkk (mr.gholmes1936, mr.holgaman, mr.Mistermonday)

i not angry, okkkk

again i repeat : i use photoshop cs2. if this script bad worked on cs2 and good worked on cs4,cs5 i not know. clerly!!!!
i use cs2 and i want script on cs2 if this script bad worked on cs2, then i want of sir.shiftstudio to create his script on cs2. please....

[chillin]

Say in your language, maybe someone can translate it.

[BagLady]

Originally Posted by ajidehak

again i repeat : i use photoshop cs2. if this script bad worked on cs2 and good worked on cs4,cs5 i not know. clerly!!!!
i use cs2 and i want script on cs2 if this script bad worked on cs2, then i want of sir.shiftstudio to create his script on cs2. please....

Now, wouldn't that be nice? You could always upgrade to cs4 or cs5... or you could read the thread again for a different solution. Your question has been answered. Perhaps it's just a language barrier... You should at least TRY to learn something about actions. It might be useful in the future. Not everyone is going to create a script tailored to fit your needs.

[shift studio]

Originally Posted by ajidehak

again i repeat : i use photoshop cs2. if this script bad worked on cs2 and good worked on cs4,cs5 i not know. clerly!!!!
i use cs2 and i want script on cs2 if this script bad worked on cs2, then i want of sir.shiftstudio to create his script on cs2. please....

I'll give a quick look for reasons its not working for you in CS2 on Windows, and get back to you.
If I don't find it easily, you're going to need to find a work-around.

--Shift Studio.

[ajidehak]

tanks sir.shiftstudio
i wait,and work by mine way,but still i wait
wait wait and wait
and may i upgrade mine photoshop cs2,to cs4 or cs5
so now i wait
bye

[ajidehak]

i'm still here,i waiting for your help!!

[mistermonday]

ajidehak, firstly, it would have been more helpful for people to understand if you had described more of what you are trying to do with your entire action, not just a single step. I think that instead of "Duplicate Image" try Window > Arrange > New Window For ". Each time you do that, you will generate an exact copy of your image with the exact same name. You can have more than 2 copies open at the same time. Whatever edit or action that you perform on any of those copies will also be automatically performed on all of the other copies and the original. You can close all of the copies and they will disappear until you go to close the last one in which case PS will ask you if you want to Save Changes. You can also at any point Save any one of the open copies, with the same name or new name. However, once you save a copy, when you go to save any of the other copies, PS will tell you that the file with that name already exists and you will be asked to over-write that file or change the file name or save the same name but to some other folder. I recommend that before you write your Action, you should first open an image and use the command to make several copies and experiment to see how it works before you finalize your action. It should not be necessary to write a script. Also note that this command is the same for CS2, CS3, CS4, & CS5.

If this does not solve your problem, I recommend you provide a more detailed description of your action and what you are trying to do from beginning to end.
Finally, if you are still not able to find an solution here at RetouchPro, I would recommend you visit the Adobe PS User Forums http://forums.adobe.com/community/ph...toshop_windows
where there are engineers from Adobe and the world's most knowledgeable people of PS.
Regards, Murray

[ajidehak]

Peace be upon you

tanks a lot for wrinting
i not use this duplicate for save with your way
i use it for batch, and in batch naming with this form:"number+file name"
mean: "1+apple","2+apple",......,"6+apple"--- for later file duplicate: "7+orange","8+orange",....,"15+orange"--- and for allll duplicate its work and use this way for my work, and i'm satisfied. but i want its a little easyest and in this time i decide to write mine request and u read my requst, and u dicide to resolve my question

ok. this all from begining to end.
i know action worked for one way and when i change name duplicate in action for one file , it save and use for other file by too name like first file
but when duplicate in difult set and use for action its change for each files by same name of file, but i not want " copy"," copy 1",.... beacuse its on batch naming create bad result and i not like bad work

in this time i dicide to create a script but i not know scripting on photoshop so
i dicide , u help me...

bye my friend. this was story at all, from beginning to end.

[mistermonday]

OK, thanks. I think I am closer to understanding what you are trying to do. Let me give you an example of an action I just tested and tell me if this is what you are trying to accomplish.
I have a folder with 6 images. I wrote an action (which will be run in File>Automate Batch) to open the first image ( YourFirstImage.jpg), then perform some commands on that image (like invert or blur, etc) and when I am finished PS will save that image as 001_YourFirstImage.jpg. Then PS will open YourSecondImage, it will run the same actions on this image and when it is finished will save the image as 002_YourSecondImage.jpg. It will continue until it has applied the action to all 6 images in my folder and the last image is named 006_YourSixthImage.jpg.
You now have 12 images in all, 6 original unmodified images and 6 modified images renamed with numbers in front of the names. By the way, those numbers can be 1,2,3, or 4 digits and they can be infront of the orig name or they can be after (YourFirstImage001).
Does this solve your problem. If yes, then I will tell you how I did it.
Tks & regards,
Murray

[ajidehak]

no i not use your think
i use this way:

[ajidehak]

and continu of up:

[ajidehak]

ok. its end. i hope the images can help me to mean my idea for u...

[0lBaldy]

maybe a simple solution would be to save all your work you want to change file names into a new folder called "Change These Names"... use Irfanview (free) (download the free plug-ins also) to batch change names or choose all the ones that have "Copy" added and batch change them.... very easy.... I did not see Farsi or Persian as a language they support but I think your knowledge of English should be OK

[shift studio]

Originally Posted by ajidehak

i'm still here,i waiting for your help!!

Sorry, I haven't read all that you and MisterMonday have discussed. But I did get a reply from my friend regarding CS2 and newer scripts. He says
"Sorry man, missed this email. I think it might be hit or miss on a newer script working on CS2"

This is the javascript. it is very, very simple. Maybe you can just compile it in Windows using ExtendScript Toolkit. Its been coming with Adobe CS since 2005. That might help.

var doc = app.activeDocument
var fname = doc.name.split(".")
var fname = fname[0]
var newDoc = doc.duplicate(fname)

So unfortunately now I have nothing more to add - I can see you have a very specific need and automating it is important... Best of luck.

--Shift Studio.

[ajidehak]

i use this script for compile in est and it eror on line 2:"undefined is not an object"

[mistermonday]

Ajidehak, thanks for the more detailed explanation. I hope I understand this time. Here is the my recommendation.
Record a simple Action with just 2 commands:
Step 1: "Save As" (save any file anywhere with any name - just choose the file type and quality)
Step 2: Stop
I created such an action and called it Ajidehak

Now I have two folders each with a group of images - see the screen shot 1 and screenshot 2.
I open all of the images in Folder 1. Then I go File>Automate>Batch. For the 1st parameter I chose 1 digit; the 2nd Parameter is "+Heritage1"; and the 3rd parameter is the file extension. See Screenshot3.
Now I click OK and all of the images are closed and renamed -see attachment 5.
Now I open all of the images in the 2nd Folder
Once again I go File>Automate>Batch. But this time I change the 2nd parameter to "+Heritage2" and at the bottom of the window I ask to start at 6 (not 1). See Screenshot 4.
Now all of these files are renamed 6+Heritage2 through 10+Heritage2 and stored in the same output folder. See Screenshot 5
With this solution you will need to do File>Automate>Batch every time you change the group name (apple, orange, date..). It may not be the perfect solution but it should save you lots of time. I hope this helps.
Regards, Murray

[ajidehak]

no
eh eh eh heem he eh eh(u cause i cry)
tanks a lot for this writing but apparently u not accuracy on my screenshot
please, if you do not upset, a little increase desire on my screenshot, its see clerly my problem.(of course u kind of me)
in step 1: i open an image on ps and cuting around of bottom flag
and in step 2: i use my action(including duplicate) on it,and it see on step 2 with same name of orginal image(of course number 1 it this not see)
in step 3: u see on window made image of orginal image and all with same name(i emphasize: with same name)and the ond of cuting make
in step 4: u see this:

[ajidehak]

in step 5: i open senond of org file with "IRAN-historical2" and do same work of step1 to step4 on it and u see all cuting image on step 7
in step 8: i use batch naming on ((all images that open on ps))
and all with true naming create and result of this on "step 9"

please see all
tanks for writing to me
please ^^^

[ajidehak]

mr.olbady tanks for this but i still not exam this(Irfanview)

[mistermonday]

Ajidehak, thanks for clarifying. The solution I suggested is not the perfect solution but can still work if:
You select, then cut, then Ctrl+N (New Image) with the default name Untitled1, Untitled2,...UntitledN. Then you change the name and add the # when you are closing the files. Yes, it is more work because you need to run File>Automate>Batch each time you want to change names (Apple, Orange,..) and you need to keep track of the start #. Yes, I can see that this may not be an acceptable solution for you.

So let's return to the original question you asked when you started this thread: Can you duplicate without "Copy". So far I have not been able to find a way with Image>Duplicate. BUT, if you go File>New and you erase the name "Untitled" and replace it with the name of the image you want to duplicate, it does work. There is also a Preset pull down menu and if you select the image you want to duplicate, it will make the duplicate image the same dimensions and resolution as the image you want to duplicate.
There may be a way that you can use File>New in your Action.

There is probably a way to accomplish what you want with a script, but my memory of the scripting commands has faded, so perhaps ShiftStudio or another script writer can perhaps be of assistance to you.

If you are not successful in finding a solution here at RP, my final suggestion for you is still to try the Adobe Photoshop User Forum whose link I posted above.

Regards, Murray

[ajidehak]

tanks a lot for help me

[shift studio]

I was thinking about your problem with the script and it's error in CS2...
If your need for this can be trimmed to 30 days, download the trial version of Photoshop CS5. You can use it free for 30 days.

Just a thought. Good luck.
--Shift Studio.

[ajidehak]

hello my freinds
i use this site:
http://morris-photographics.com
it's very good site for script photoshop
i want to help all
tanks and bye

[ajidehak]

hi my frinds. now, i can make solution for my problem:"duplicate without copy"
i make it by help of a plugin:"ScriptListener" in photoshop on this path :
..\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Scripting Guide\Utilities
if u like use it , u must copy it and paste to this path :
..\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Plug-Ins\Adobe Photoshop Only\Automate
and then when u in photoshop record a new action and this plugin write for u script of action to c:\ScriptingListenerJS.txt
i use it and make mine script:

#target photoshop

app.bringToFront();

function main() {
var doc = activeDocument;
var docName = doc.name.slice(0,-4);
ajiDuplicat(docName);
}

function ajiDuplicat (docName) {
var ajiId1 = charIDToTypeID( "Dplc" );
var ajiDesc1 = new ActionDescriptor();
var ajiId2 = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
var ajiRef1 = new ActionReference();
var ajiId3 = charIDToTypeID( "Dcmn" );
var ajiId4 = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
var ajiId5 = charIDToTypeID( "Frst" );
ajiRef1.putEnumerated( ajiId3, ajiId4, ajiId5 );
ajiDesc1.putReference( ajiId2, ajiRef1 );
var ajiId6 = charIDToTypeID( "Nm " );
ajiDesc1.putString( ajiId6, docName );
executeAction( ajiId1, ajiDesc1, DialogModes.NO );
}

u can use it in adobe photoshop cs2 for duplicate without "copy" name
now i tanks all and specially tanks of "sir.shift studio" and "sir.mistermonday" for help me.
but i end it.
bye anybody read this.

[mistermonday]

Ajidehak, good script. Congratulations on solving your problem and for sharing the results.
Regards, Murray

[shift studio]

Yup - good for you! From the amount of effort it took, it looks like you really really, really needed it. Great for you.
--Shift Studio.