RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > RetouchPRO LIVE
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


RetouchPRO LIVE Discussion and announcements for RetouchPRO LIVE events

RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #121  
Old 08-11-2010, 12:10 PM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Doug Nelson Doug Nelson is offline
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,061
Blog Entries: 21
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

And I feel so bad about that, but the beta won't last much longer.
Reply With Quote top
  #122  
Old 08-11-2010, 12:11 PM
elboertjie elboertjie is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 16
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Hopefully when it is finally released to us, we can play catch-up.
Reply With Quote top
  #123  
Old 09-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Yu Fujimoto Yu Fujimoto is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 12
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

not available in Japan either. Doug could you make it available as a download or something?

Thanks
Reply With Quote top
  #124  
Old 09-28-2010, 02:53 AM
Yu Fujimoto Yu Fujimoto is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 12
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Once again I'd love to pay and watch, but I was in the studio all weekend (here in Tokyo), so I couldn't watch either of them and I can't buy them on YouTube because out of 193 countries in the world, YouTube Rental blocks them all but one...

Doug, again, I beg you, please make this video available more widely! The US population is just 5 percent of the world population... Not everyone in the world can watch it at 4am or whenever. Some people have scheduling conflicts. These tutorials are adopting a broadcast TV-era model in the age of the internet.

Last time I request that you make this videos available for purchase directly, you only me "it's all about the live broadcast" implying there was little value in watching the non-live version of the video, but if you believe that yourself, then why rebroadcast them at all? *sigh*

Personally, a non-live version is much more useful to me, because I can pause and rewind when I need too, and I can watch it again to pick up things I might have forgotten about on the first viewing.

I know I'm not the only one who is frustrated about this. Quality retouching tutorials from premiere professionals are pretty rare, so it's very frustrating to find them only broadcast on fixed time-slots in the internet age when digital files can easily sold and transferred so the viewer can time-shift them to fit their schedule. Hopefully someone will put the last Amy Dresser vid up as a torrent, because there is a real need here that's not being met by this business model.

If anyone else feels the way I do, please be more vocal! Maybe if the management hears enough complaints they'll do something different. There are many other ways to manage the distribution of the file. Seems like he's not against it in principle (it's on YouTube). Finally, if you buy this from YouTube, an you download it or can you only just watch it online one time (or maybe many times during a 2-3 day period)? How does it work exactly? I can't even view the page on YouTube because they block IPs outside of the US. Can I pay someone to record it for me?

Cheers,
Max
Reply With Quote top
  #125  
Old 09-28-2010, 03:21 AM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Doug Nelson Doug Nelson is offline
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,061
Blog Entries: 21
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Sigh...no one is "blocked", in spite of what YouTube's message says. It is simply still in the beta stage of development. Just like every other program and service out there went through a beta stage.

Management is only me. Encouraging people to bug me is not going to help anything.

I can appreciate your frustration, but please do not ask people to pirate these shows.
Reply With Quote top
  #126  
Old 09-28-2010, 05:54 AM
Yu Fujimoto Yu Fujimoto is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 12
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Hi Doug,

Not sure what you mean, "no one is blocked." I can't even see the page for the video on YouTube. So YouTube is IP filtering; that is, they recognize that my IP is from Japan and they block me from accessing the video.

YouTube has been beta testing their Rental service since January. According to a recent Financial Times article, "The company is reportedly aiming for an end-of-year unveiling. It would launch in the US first, but it would eventually spread to other countries."

So considering it's still in beta in the US and might be for another couple months or more (these big IT projects rarely release on-time), then it's probably reasonable to expect for it to take another half-a-year or more to sort out all the billing and rights issues so it can "eventually spread to other countries". So, optimistically, maybe I can watch it in 9 months.

I had a friend record it for me, but unfortunately his software didn't get the audio. Any chance you can at least make the audio available to me?
Reply With Quote top
  #127  
Old 09-28-2010, 05:58 AM
Yu Fujimoto Yu Fujimoto is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 12
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

btw, is this new video on youtube rentals now? if so, can you send me a direct link to the video page? I can't even view your channel. They block access to all the rental pages. Maybe I can pay someone in the US to rent it and record the audio for me, so I can match it to my webinar video recording, so I need the link to this video on YouTube Rentals.
Reply With Quote top
  #128  
Old 09-28-2010, 11:17 AM
CJ Swartz's Avatar
CJ Swartz CJ Swartz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Metro Phoenix area, Arizona
Posts: 3,344
Blog Entries: 19
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Yu, NO one is allowed to record it, and if anyone ever does and the news leaks out - there will be no more Amy Dresser video tutorials on this site. Then you will have to wait until she decides to do one of her own and sells it - for a lot more money than you have to pay to watch it here.

You ask other people here to break the rules for you (the only posts you ever make on this forum are to complain about not being able to record Amy Dresser) when all you had to do was arrange your schedule to watch the show. If you were unable to do that - sorry, but why does your inability to manage your schedule make it necessary for me to break the rules, the copyright laws, and ruin the chance of having any future LIVE shows ever shown here - Doug has made it very clear that the artists doing the work will not do any more programs if they find out that their work has been recorded and downloaded anywhere else on the internet. You are willing to ruin the program for everyone else just because you haven't figured a way to watch one show?!
Reply With Quote top
  #129  
Old 09-28-2010, 12:05 PM
Yu Fujimoto Yu Fujimoto is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 12
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

> when all you had to do was arrange your schedule to watch the show

You make it sound so easy. Are you retired or something? Not everyone has such flexibility. You don't know how busy I am, how many multiple clients I'm working for this week. I just worked for 6 nights from 9:30pm to 6:30 am shooting one of the largest murals in the world, section-by-section, in the eleven floor Abercrombie & Fitch store in Ginza while at the same time I'm helping National Geographic produce a documentary on Yakuza, AND I spend 14 hours in the studio this past weekend doing a fashion shoot for a third client. Keep in mind the the last AmY Dresser vid aired at 4am Japan time. I had a friend wake up and start his recording, then go back to sleep.

As far as accusing me of copyright violations, brush up on Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios for a case in which substantial copying—entire programs for private viewing—was upheld as fair use, at least when the copying is done for the purposes of time-shifting.

Yeah, Amy would be wise to do her own video. The current tutorials could reach a much larger market if the distribution was handled differently.

> You are willing to ruin the program for everyone else just because you haven't figured a way to watch one show?!

Well doesn't it seem a bit inconvenient that the only way for me to see the vid is if I 1) cancel a $700 a day gig and wreck my client's schedule; or, 2) fly to the US, rent it on YouTube, then fly back? That's totally unnecessary. It's a 2gb digital file, and I have 100mbit fiber optic line here in Tokyo. So I need to pay $1,000 to fly to the US so I can access it via a US-based IP address, or else I can get someone to record it for me in the US (or wait for it as a torrent). I'm totally willing to pay for it, but Doug isn't offering me any options. Recording a broadcast to time-shift it for personal-use is not a criminal act.

anyway, I'll figure out a way to get it, but thanks for making it so easy for me and the other 95% of the world's population not living on American soil.
Reply With Quote top
  #130  
Old 09-28-2010, 12:25 PM
Der_W's Avatar
Der_W Der_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 558
Re: RetouchPRO LIVE with Amy Dresser

Cool down, there's really no need to become upset :-).
You could try to use a proxy/VPN in order to get access to the YouTube beta rentals.
I'm just testing http://www.anchorfree.com/downloads/hotspot-shield/ and it seems to work fine for me (albeit a little slow).
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > RetouchPRO LIVE


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
RetouchPRO LIVE with Gry Garness - 07/18/09 Doug Nelson RetouchPRO LIVE 31 08-11-2010 12:18 PM
RetouchPRO LIVE - Raw 101 with Mikkel Aaland Doug Nelson RetouchPRO LIVE 15 08-11-2010 12:11 PM
RetouchPRO LIVE with Gry Garness - 08/08/09 Doug Nelson RetouchPRO LIVE 14 08-11-2010 12:03 PM
RetouchPRO LIVE - Steve Caplin 07/01/09 Doug Nelson RetouchPRO LIVE 10 08-11-2010 12:01 PM
RetouchPRO LIVE: Product Retouch with Carrie Beene Doug Nelson RetouchPRO LIVE 6 09-01-2009 02:14 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved