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Old 06-06-2005, 04:13 PM
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Jaykita's watercolor technigue

In November, senior member Jaykita gave us a very persuasive watercolor method, and included two Impressionist watercolor brushes of his own design. I'm sorry I don't have the message number in my notes, but the post is dated 11-17-2004. J's technique really works very well indeed, but I have a question which he (or anyone) might perhaps answer here. At the very last, J. employs a *vector mask* to get rid of any black in the image, since watercolor paintings show black very rarely. Now I was under the impression that vector masks (which I've never used) are useful for very precise work involving sharp edges and paths. How does a vector mask work to elliminate black in the final rendering of J's watercolor?
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Old 06-07-2005, 08:17 PM
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I think the method you are talking about is here

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/sho...76164#poststop

I did not understand it either. But I liked the results

Ken
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:12 PM
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Ah, great catch. I missed that thread/post...

Here's a direct link to thet post (saves scrolling):
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=40

Although I, too, liked the results, it was closing in on the Thanksgiving holiday in the U.S. and I never did try the technique myself.

After rereading through the steps, it's not clear to me now what was meant by the vector mask reference. If I get time in the next few days, I'll see if I can decipher the method by recreating the results. If I'm able to do that I will take a cut at clarifying the steps.

Thanks, Oyster, for raising the white flag on this one.

~Danny~
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:43 PM
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I don't know if this helps but I have dug out my notes.
These steps should be Jaykita steps with my additions in brackets
The main problem is a missing step between L3 and L4
And also L9 which Oyster has already pointed out.
It sounds like Oyster has solved the first problem but I never got it right

Oyster
Can you help us out here to the last step?


Steps:-

(Works best on 72dpi)

L1 Duplicate the background call it L1 (then run auto levels)
Layer L1 image > adjustment > levels - lighten without increasing contrast (only move middle slider toward left 0,1.6,255)

L2 Dup L1- call it L2 apply impressionist filter Watercolor A (change coverage to 100%)
Then Filter > Noise > Median Radius 1 or 2. (this does not seem enough ? try 5)

L3- Dup L1-call it L3 (drag to top of stack) levels adj 0,1.90,255, ps7 artistic watercolor, 14,0,1.

(blend mode missing here - Trying darken - Opacity100)


L4 Select All > Copy Merged > Paste - call the new layer L4
apply impressionist filter Watercolor A again

L5- Dup L4 call it L5 - virtual painter watercolor . this further enhances effect
Set layer opacity to 36%

L6- Select all, copy merged, paste call it L6

L7- Duplicate L6 (or L1? L1 used)- call it L7, impressionist filter watercolor B.
Set layer opacity to 41%

L8- Select all, copy merged, paste, (call it L8) image > adjust > selective color -white reduce black a bit.

L9- Dup again (call it L9) ps7 artistic watercolor, layermask (add vectormask)to get rid of any black in image if necessary.
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Old 06-09-2005, 04:27 AM
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Hello all. Thank you for the interest shown in my image.
I am sorry to say that at the time of creating “portrait bara” I was a greenhorn with photoshop 7, and the impressionist filter. As a matter of fact, still am, for the process of learning never ceases. When I posted my work and Danny approved, I tried to retrace my steps, so I could share with him and you all.
A lot of time has gone since and I am unable to find my psd file. However, I've recreated my image which I am posting again here.
Also I was wrong to use the term “vector mask”. The vector mask didn’t work when I did a re-run of my technique, only hid the image. It is possible that i used a LAYER MASK to lighten some of the black color. I apologise for my mistake. Sorry. Thank you for bringing this to light.

Here are the steps to which I have added (AND ALSO CORRECTED):
Layer L1 (upwards) Original image, image adjustment levels to lighten without increasing contrast (only move middle slider toward left) 0, 1.90, 255.
L2- Dup L1- apply impr filter Watercolor A (brush size 60, coverage 100), Noise-Median 1 or 2.
L3- Dup L1- ps7 watercolor, 14,0,1. Opacity 50.
L4- Select all, copymerged, paste -- ps7 artistic watercolor once more. 14.0.1
L5- Dup L1, virtual painter watercolor rendering 55, coloration 27, focus 100, opacity 50. (this further enhances effect)
L6- Select all, copy merged, paste.
L7- Dup L1, impr filter watercolor B opac 41.
L8- Select all, copy merged, paste, image adj selective color-white reduce black to –29, increase saturation to +25.
L9- Dup L8, ps7 wc filter 14,0,1.
Finally, add texture – sandstone,100, 2, top left.

I hope this will avoid further confusion. Thank you.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:31 PM
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Thanks Jaykita

Now it makes sense and works perfectly.
You must have Virtual Painter Deluxe for those settings but it does not make a great difference to use Virtual Painter.

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Old 06-10-2005, 03:23 AM
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Jaykita being female not male and called Judy or is it another jaykita?

Yes she is very creative and does superb colour and watercolours.
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:40 AM
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hi all!

my impressionist doesn't seem to have watercolor A or B, does anyone have the settings perhaps ?

thanks
bert
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:07 AM
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hi again

further to my last - view time difference thought i'd improvise:

this is my variation on jaykita's (thanks JK!!) workflow, without use of virtual painter and without imp watercolor A + B:

Layer L1 (upwards) Original image, image adjustment levels to lighten without increasing contrast (only move middle slider toward left) 0, 1.90, 255.
L2- Dup L1- apply impr filter Watercolor Soft Water Sketch (brush size 60, coverage 100), Noise-Median 2.
L3- Dup L1- ps7 watercolor, 14,0,1. Opacity 50.
L4- Select all, copymerged, paste, set blending to Lighten
L5- Dup L1, apply impr filter Watercolor Soft Water Sketch (brush size 60, coverage 100), set blending to Multiply
L8- Select all, copy merged, paste, image adj selective color-white reduce black to –29, increase saturation to +25.

Finally, add texture – Trimoon's 101 - scaling 75, relief 2, top left

what do you think?

bert
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:40 AM
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oh and meanwhile i did find the thread containing the imp watercolor A+B settings
off to rework again
txs
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