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08-01-2008, 11:37 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique well look that pic of you is made by the same retouchers as the one how made that tuturial
and it is possible, look at my deviant art page (im a newbie ther haha) http://ruud92.deviantart.com/gallery/
all those retouches are done with dodge and burn  (also almost every one in my gallery at RetouchPRO) i dont know if you think its smooth enough but just for an example | 
08-01-2008, 01:53 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by skauskas I have a question about this tutorial.. when we doing picture lighter or darker with help of curves is there any different how dark or how light you need to do it? does it depends on the photo? | I'm not sure how others do it but I try to select a loose sample of the darkest or lightest area I will need to change.
Once I adjust the curve as needed I go little farther just to be sure then refill the mask with black to hide all.
Remember you are using low opacity brushes and usually you want to build the effect slowly for control..otherwise use more than one stroke to lighten or darken.
Butch
Last edited by Daviskw; 08-01-2008 at 07:15 PM.
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08-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up) | 
08-02-2008, 02:25 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by toan thai I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up) |
Thats why I love the dodge and burn technique, you get really smooth images, but with a beautiful real skin texture!
also very nice job toan tai! | 
08-02-2008, 04:20 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique So on d&b - olny what I have to do is to paint with brush on the mask ? | 
08-03-2008, 06:51 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Ruud: thanks
jaroslav: yes, paint on the masks with white. | 
08-04-2008, 10:22 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Rud92 Can U write full tutorial about retouch with d&b Or Can U show any psd file with all layers ( from non retouched pic to touched ) ? | 
08-04-2008, 11:25 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by jaroslav Rud92 Can U write full tutorial about retouch with d&b Or Can U show any psd file with all layers ( from non retouched pic to touched ) ? | Euhm Yes i can give you a file, but give me some time so i can find out how to post, or have you a some good site were i can unload bigger files  ? | 
08-04-2008, 04:45 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique here U can upload file to 1GB for free http://www.megaupload.com
or I can create own FTP I've got public IP | 
08-04-2008, 09:31 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by toan thai I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up) | it looks like you added noise to her left arm... | 
08-05-2008, 07:20 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by jaroslav | FTP is OK
Last edited by ruud92; 08-05-2008 at 07:32 AM.
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08-05-2008, 06:30 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique I tried use d&b but I don't get it 1 I cerated over the pic new layer with fill 50 % gray ( bleding : soft light ) 2 on this layer with gray I strated paint with black color on light areas of pic and with white on dark areas ( soft brush 10 px 7-10 % opt. ). And I didn't get soft skin but all imperfects of skin now are more visible | 
08-05-2008, 06:48 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by jaroslav I tried use d&b but I don't get it 1 I cerated over the pic new layer with fill 50 % gray ( bleding : soft light ) 2 on this layer with gray I strated paint with black color on light areas of pic and with white on dark areas ( soft brush 10 px 7-10 % opt. ). And I didn't get soft skin but all imperfects of skin now are more visible | patience, patience, patience. concentrate in a small area. practice until you get it right. btw, did you paint in "soft light" or "normal" mode. your paint brush must be set in "soft light" mode. | 
08-05-2008, 10:20 PM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique ruud92, I'd love to know the step-by-step you use to get those good texture skins in your samples. I've noticed that you also have good sharpen in the hairs.
Could you give us a tutorial along with the PSD jaroslav requested?
It'll be much appreciated. | 
08-06-2008, 01:19 AM
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| | | Re: Dodge and Burn Technique Quote:
Originally Posted by jaroslav I DO NOT understand Dodge and Burn anyone can show me psd file ? | PSD file is too big for this forum and I didn't feel like hosting it somewhere that's going to get deleted in a few weeks. Here are 2 jpegs. Put the grey one on top of the color one and set its blend mode to Soft Light to see the result. Notice there's some color in grey image. I always try to sample my black from the pupil, hair, or nostril to avoid skin discoloration during D+B. When that didn't work, I just sample the color from the surrounding skin area and paint over. I used a regular soft brush at normal mode with opacity at 3% and flow at 40% with an Intuos 3 and went to town with it...no trick. You can set it at whatever % you prefer as long as you're comfortable in controlling it. I D+B as much as 60% with the Graphire tablet.
Last edited by pixel_monkey; 08-06-2008 at 03:30 AM.
Reason: color profile fine
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