Dodge and Burn Technique

[videosean]

Dodge and Burn, a visual reference/walkthrough of the basic idea using Photoshop 7 and above. [details]

[Doug Nelson]

The mouseover thing is a great touch. I didn't even know it was possible with our tutorial system. How'd you do it?

[videosean]

Originally Posted by Doug Nelson

The mouseover thing is a great touch. I didn't even know it was possible with our tutorial system. How'd you do it?

It's just a few lines of javascript. Just replace the http://site.com/image.jpg parts with the URL for the images you want to use. I didn't make up the script, I probably found it via Google

<script language="JavaScript">
img1 = new Image();
img1.src = "http://site.com/image1.jpg";
img2 = new Image();
img2.src = "http://site.com/image2.jpg";
function domSwap(){
theImg=document.getElementById("myImage");
theImg.setAttribute("src","http://site.com/image2.jpg");
}
function domSwapBack(){
theImg=document.getElementById("myImage");
theImg.setAttribute("src","http://site.com/image1.jpg");
}
</script>
<a href="#" onmouseover="domSwap()" onmouseout="domSwapBack()"><img src="http://site.com/image1.jpg" id="myImage" border="0"></a>

[jaroslav]

Hello

I tryed retouch photo with this tutorial

http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=272

but I'cant understand it how it's posible to get soft skin or that kind of effect http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs30/f/20...hingsMagic.png with curves and masks. Anyone could show psd file ? ( I'd be grateful for this )

[jaroslav]

I found some method for this skin, is it correct ?

1 Clone stamp tool / healing brush - removing imperfection of skin ( crease, pimples...)

2 Improving clours

3 duplicate layer and use smudge tool for smoothing

4 reduce opaticy

5 Sharp one of the channels

[jaroslav]

I DO NOT understand Dodge and Burn anyone can show me psd file ?

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by jaroslav

Hello

I tryed retouch photo with this tutorial

http://retouchpro.com/tutorials/?m=show&id=272

but I'cant understand it how it's posible to get soft skin or that kind of effect http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs30/f/20...hingsMagic.png with curves and masks. Anyone could show psd file ? ( I'd be grateful for this )

First of all, that picture isn't done with dodge and burn but with the median filter or with blur i guess.. but definitely no dodge and burn (i know that for sure because i have spoken with the retoucher of it, Laura)

second: it is possible, and it will look way much better than what you get with blur/median, it also will look like it is real, only: it is allot of practising, and the tutorial of video sean is a great one, if you want more information about the dodge an burn technique just type in 'dodge and burn technique skin' in google and you will find allot information, also in this site there are plenty of treats about dodge an burn!

[chillin]

What did Laura say "median filter" or "with blur"?

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by chillin

What did Laura say "median filter" or "with blur"?

I know she doesn't use the dodge and burn technique, she did know it was a technique but she hasn't used it before, and must learn it to. ( i had that talk with her after she had post that picture) and since she has on her deviant art a tutorial doing skin were she says she use median, it must be median because in a threat here she says she don't use blur! and that pic doesn't look like there was used dodge and burn

[chillin]

Thanks ruud92

[skauskas]

I have a question about this tutorial.. when we doing picture lighter or darker with help of curves is there any different how dark or how light you need to do it? does it depends on the photo?

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by skauskas

I have a question about this tutorial.. when we doing picture lighter or darker with help of curves is there any different how dark or how light you need to do it? does it depends on the photo?

well, you have to find out that by yourself, when you notice that you got make a dark spot TOO light the ''light curve' is then to 'aggressive'

do you get what im trying to say?

[jaroslav]

Originally Posted by ruud92

I know she doesn't use the dodge and burn technique, she did know it was a technique but she hasn't used it before, and must learn it to. ( i had that talk with her after she had post that picture) and since she has on her deviant art a tutorial doing skin were she says she use median, it must be median because in a threat here she says she don't use blur! and that pic doesn't look like there was used dodge and burn

Have U got link to her account on da ?

[ruud92]

http://everythingsmagic.deviantart.c...orial-82726756

[jaroslav]

nice but too artificial this is good http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs30/f/20...hingsMagic.png - but IMO it's impossible to get so soft skin with dodge and burn , must be some other way to do this. And I think that it was made without blur or median.

[ruud92]

well look that pic of you is made by the same retouchers as the one how made that tuturial

and it is possible, look at my deviant art page (im a newbie ther haha)

http://ruud92.deviantart.com/gallery/

all those retouches are done with dodge and burn (also almost every one in my gallery at RetouchPRO) i dont know if you think its smooth enough but just for an example

[Daviskw]

Originally Posted by skauskas

I have a question about this tutorial.. when we doing picture lighter or darker with help of curves is there any different how dark or how light you need to do it? does it depends on the photo?

I'm not sure how others do it but I try to select a loose sample of the darkest or lightest area I will need to change.

Once I adjust the curve as needed I go little farther just to be sure then refill the mask with black to hide all.

Remember you are using low opacity brushes and usually you want to build the effect slowly for control..otherwise use more than one stroke to lighten or darken.

Butch

[toan thai]

I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity

http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up)

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by toan thai

I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity

http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up)

Thats why I love the dodge and burn technique, you get really smooth images, but with a beautiful real skin texture!

also very nice job toan tai!

[jaroslav]

So on d&b - olny what I have to do is to paint with brush on the mask ?

[toan thai]

Ruud: thanks
jaroslav: yes, paint on the masks with white.

[jaroslav]

Rud92 Can U write full tutorial about retouch with d&b Or Can U show any psd file with all layers ( from non retouched pic to touched ) ?

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by jaroslav

Rud92 Can U write full tutorial about retouch with d&b Or Can U show any psd file with all layers ( from non retouched pic to touched ) ?

Euhm Yes i can give you a file, but give me some time so i can find out how to post, or have you a some good site were i can unload bigger files?

[jaroslav]

here U can upload file to 1GB for free http://www.megaupload.com

or I can create own FTP I've got public IP

[pixelzombie]

Originally Posted by toan thai

I like working with curve layers dodge and burn. It's less destructive than cloning and you get to retain original skin texture. (I don't like using the healing tool for skin). Here is an example done with curve layers dodge and burn. Caution: nudity

http://toanthai.com/blogphotos/retouch/retouch14b.htm (close-up)

it looks like you added noise to her left arm...

[ruud92]

Originally Posted by jaroslav

here U can upload file to 1GB for free http://www.megaupload.com

or I can create own FTP I've got public IP

FTP is OK

[jaroslav]

I tried use d&b but I don't get it 1 I cerated over the pic new layer with fill 50 % gray ( bleding : soft light ) 2 on this layer with gray I strated paint with black color on light areas of pic and with white on dark areas ( soft brush 10 px 7-10 % opt. ). And I didn't get soft skin but all imperfects of skin now are more visible

[toan thai]

Originally Posted by jaroslav

I tried use d&b but I don't get it 1 I cerated over the pic new layer with fill 50 % gray ( bleding : soft light ) 2 on this layer with gray I strated paint with black color on light areas of pic and with white on dark areas ( soft brush 10 px 7-10 % opt. ). And I didn't get soft skin but all imperfects of skin now are more visible

patience, patience, patience. concentrate in a small area. practice until you get it right. btw, did you paint in "soft light" or "normal" mode. your paint brush must be set in "soft light" mode.

[jvr]

ruud92, I'd love to know the step-by-step you use to get those good texture skins in your samples. I've noticed that you also have good sharpen in the hairs.

Could you give us a tutorial along with the PSD jaroslav requested?

It'll be much appreciated.

[pixel_monkey]

Originally Posted by jaroslav

I DO NOT understand Dodge and Burn anyone can show me psd file ?

PSD file is too big for this forum and I didn't feel like hosting it somewhere that's going to get deleted in a few weeks. Here are 2 jpegs. Put the grey one on top of the color one and set its blend mode to Soft Light to see the result. Notice there's some color in grey image. I always try to sample my black from the pupil, hair, or nostril to avoid skin discoloration during D+B. When that didn't work, I just sample the color from the surrounding skin area and paint over. I used a regular soft brush at normal mode with opacity at 3% and flow at 40% with an Intuos 3 and went to town with it...no trick. You can set it at whatever % you prefer as long as you're comfortable in controlling it. I D+B as much as 60% with the Graphire tablet.