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04-16-2006, 05:14 AM
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| | damen "It took eleven months (close to 2,000 hours) to create... thats fun:
first i thought its a picture. it took me some time to believe its not.
the tech specs are huge...
The image size is 40 inches by 120 inches.
• The flattened file weighs in at 1.7 Gigabytes.
• It took eleven months (close to 2,000 hours) to create.
• The painting is comprised of close to fifty individual Photoshop files.
• Taking a cumulative total of all the files, the overall image contains over 15,000 layers.
• Over 500 alpha channels were used for various effects.
• Over 250,000 paths make up the multitude of shapes throughout the scene.
its really good, the only point of critic i had:
- it needs more "errors" to avoid the synthetic look
- overall noise i am missing and desharpening partially
- for example the red building looks artificial http://www.bertmonroy.com/fineart/te...eart_damen.htm | 
04-16-2006, 09:29 AM
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| | | Pure
Thank you for that link! Absolutly AMAZING! | 
04-16-2006, 10:25 AM
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| | | Yes, I think amazing pretty much sums it up.
Only one question. Why? | 
04-16-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Richardson Yes, I think amazing pretty much sums it up.
Only one question. Why? | Why not?
Folks climb mountains that have already been cllimbed. Folks build scenes that could have been done with a camera.
Ah humans! Cain't understand them, but they are hard to live without | 
04-17-2006, 03:37 AM
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| | I enjoy playing with PS as much as the next man, but 2000+ hours on one image looks a bit obsessive to me.
OK the end result is impressive, but for me, not at the cost of 2000+ hours of my time.
But it takes all sorts I guess, and I really enjoyed the image, and the world would be a much poorer place if we were all the same. | 
04-17-2006, 06:33 AM
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| | Only a word - respect | 
04-17-2006, 06:34 AM
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| | | amazing I build wooden ships as a second hobby. The last one I finished took about 450 hours to complete. Passion is everything.
Rich | 
04-17-2006, 07:37 AM
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| | I'm with Gary. It's very impressive, but I would mourn the loss of my 2000 hours with only one picture to show for it. Maybe the artist is under 30 and hasn't started thinking that way yet | 
04-17-2006, 11:22 AM
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| | | serious bragging rights bro. it's awesome. | 
04-17-2006, 01:18 PM
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| | Nice picture, but I'm also with Gary on this one. All those hours and only a single image to show for it  OK if you have the time and don't need the hours to pay your wages. That work would have cost me a min of £20,000.00 in lost hours.
On a picky note about the image, I don't like the fact that it is all in focus (not a true realism IMHO). Wish I had that level of skill with photoshop art, and the time to do such things though  . | 
04-17-2006, 03:02 PM
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| | | If you look at the fine art section of his page he has other pictures that are much better (albeit smaller) than this latest one. | 
04-17-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rrustic I build wooden ships as a second hobby. The last one I finished took about 450 hours to complete. Passion is everything.
Rich | Exactly!
You took 450 hours to produce something that cannot (?) be manufactured commercially. So when someone sees the ship they know how much time and expertise went into it.
This guy spent almost a year of his life producing something that looks just like a 2-second amateur snapshot!
To me, that is very sad.
Rô | 
04-17-2006, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by byRo Exactly!
This guy spent almost a year of his life producing something that looks just like a 2-second amateur snapshot!
To me, that is very sad.
Rô | The fact is no matter how good he gets it still doesn't look "exactly like a real photograph. There in lies part of the merit of the work. The subtle differences from reality produced photo-realistic artwork serve to create an almost hyper-real image that has very interesting qualities. These images may have the same subject matter, composition, lighting... as the original photo but the subtle differences create a completely different tone. | 
04-17-2006, 07:23 PM
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| | | im impressed i wish i could say that i could produce something half that good in twice as much time. as for time wasted or lost i think if he is that into it and wants to spend his time that way i admire him. i personally am the type person that i get to impatient to see results therefore i would never be able to devote that much time to one project whether i had the time to devote or not so again i admire the artist | 
04-17-2006, 09:58 PM
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| | The first thing that comes to mind just about everytime I see this image posted and discussed somewhere: Quote: |
After working on La Grande Jatte for two years, Seurat exhibited the painting in 1886 at the eighth and final Impressionist exhibition. The large picture, measured more than two meters by three, and executed in an entirely new technique using dots, was received in very different ways, like the first Impressionist exhibition twelve years before. It was precisely the picture's technique that aroused the most displeasure amongst the public, critics and artists.
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