Volcano in Iceland

[plugsnpixels]

That's a cool pic, thanks!

All we need now is for another volcano to go off elsewhere in the world, and our delicate infrastructure is finished...

[Kraellin]

BBC America was reporting that the ash discharge had lightened up a bit now but that the lava flow had increased. at the time of eruption, the ash being thrown into the air was roughly 500 tons PER SECOND!

and yes, volcanos can create their own weather, including lightning. when pinatubo blew in the phillipines, the resulting weather storm was intense. it was an incredible mess. ash was falling covering everything and then flooding from the weather created by the volcano was moving the ash around, wiping things out and burying other things. quite incredible.

the economic impact of the iceland volcano is already being felt across the world. flowers in kenya scheduled for delivery in europe were rotting with no place to go. ferrys are shuttling a large number of folks from calais to the u.k., but at exorbitant prices. there are folks stranded in the u.s. that wish to return to europe, but cant and are sleeping in the airports for the most part. perishables from around the world cannot fly in to europe and either have to be sold at a fairly large loss for quick sale or simply rot. the airlines were reported to be losing 200 million dollars a day, or some such very high number. that this could go on for a year like this is unlikely, but not impossible. normally, those main blasts of ash and such subside fairly quickly, like within days or weeks, but usually not months or years. i think mount saint helens went on for a few days and that was about it. pinatubo lasted a bit longer, but was quite a bit larger to begin with. but it was by no means months, if i remember correctly. but yes, it is affecting economics.

what has surprised me most is that there wasnt more loss of life from this one. it was rather a spectacular eruption.

i'm also curious how this will affect iceland's geothermal energy production. they produce a lot of electricity from geo thermal.

someone else mentioned the ash fallout. this can be quite wide ranging, sometimes actually going entirely around the globe. it shall be interesting to watch. the authorities are trying to get a handle on when and where the airlines can resume, but so far, nothing. about the only things flying are scout and spotter planes flying near the volcano and a test flight or two of major passenger planes to try and determine how much the ash is affecting the engines. and, that's the biggest concern, how the ash affects the engines. officials are afraid to say ok if there is any risk to passenger safety. NO ONE wants to say 'sure, go ahead and fly' and then have planes falling out of the sky only to be found that engines failed due to ash damage.

some of the videos on the 'telly' are quite spectacular of the actual eruption. if you get a chance, do see some of them.

as for the contrails, there are quite a large number of variables. time and altitude are the biggest. it can look like two planes are about to crash if you only watch their contrails, but it's difficult from the ground to see the actual heights of the respective planes. time also plays a huge part. those contrails can dissipate quite rapidly or quite slowly. so, you see an X but there can be quite a time difference in the two. direction also plays a part and so does the amount of water vapor, temperature and whether the plane is flying level, ascending or descending. here, read the wiki on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail . and here, check these out: http://images.google.com/images?q=co...N&hl=en&tab=wi

[palms]

As of last night we have planes again and vapour trails lol
the volume of air traffic has been slowly building all day ! ! ! but not back to full strength just yet

but as we live so close hope there is no problems with the aircraft


Palms

[plugsnpixels]

From Fox News:

"As volcanic ash cast a shadow over millions of lives, Londoners and other city dwellers across Europe were treated to a rare spectacle of nature: Pristine, blue skies brighter than any in recent memory.

"The remarkable sight happened in part because mass flight groundings prevented busy airspace from being crisscrossed with plumes of jet exhaust that create a semi-permanent haze — and other effects beyond the white contrails themselves."

[lkroll]

Sal just shared this link with me. Not sure if it has already been shared on this thread yet, and I ain't, 'scuse my Southern slang, going to open every link on this thread to find out. lol

Does anyone have a link of the proper pronunciation of this volcano? lol

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...llajokull.html

[amica999]

Does anyone have a link of the proper pronunciation of this volcano? lol


No way I really enjoyed the news-people breaking their tongue

[Kraellin]

those are some amazing pics, lyle! i can see why photographers go idiotic during events like these and take risks that they probably shldnt. hell, i'm tempted myself to go over and take some. let's stand on the crater's edge and shoot straight down!

[lkroll]

My sister-in-law's father (name eludes me now) was a Photographer for National Geographic and he died while shooting a volcano. Though not directly effected, still, it hits sort of close to home. All I do know about the photographer was that he was from England. Anyway, I would not be as brave as you Craig.

[palms]

Superb photo's Lyle and sorry but "ain't" is a true Brummie word

not in the same league but i remember when concorde made its first landing here, i watched most of it through the view finder and realised what a spectacle i had missed photographing it

and on the pronunciation take a read of this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-Iceland.html
It seems we have had the name wrong all along

Palms

[lkroll]

lol; never was any good and graphical represenations for words. The story is even more funny in that all they need to pronounce was just a small part of it. Still glad that the bad part of it is finally settling down enough for most travel to continue.

[Overdoze]

http://vimeo.com/11673745 Awesome video about volcano.

[CJ Swartz]

Originally Posted by Overdoze

http://vimeo.com/11673745 Awesome video about volcano.

Thanks for the link - it is an amazing event to watch.

[Overdoze]

No probs, friend linked it to me in msn so thought to share. Im amazed again.. Wonderful landscapes in Iceland..

[palms]

Originally Posted by Overdoze

http://vimeo.com/11673745 Awesome video about volcano.

you are right awesome video, superb quality,

mind you i know which way the wind was blowing ! ! ! Our way of course we had another quick shut down of the airport this week but only overnight this time !

Palms

[lkroll]

Yeah; saw that on the news. Guess I was premature with my statements earlier. If it's like what happened in the 19th century, it may last over a year. Hope not.

[Kraellin]

nice video.

has anyone else wondered if this unseasonably cool weather we're having has anything to do with tons and tons of ash, soot, dirt and gasses being poured into the atmosphere?

[plugsnpixels]

That's a good point, Craig. Even here in LA it's been cooler (sometimes with rain) for longer than seems normal.

[palms]

Originally Posted by Kraellin

nice video.

has anyone else wondered if this unseasonably cool weather we're having has anything to do with tons and tons of ash, soot, dirt and gasses being poured into the atmosphere?

Right at the outset they reported that the weather would be affected by the volcanic ash. but we thought it would be just another excuse to explain why we will have no summer again

here is a news item

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6408216.shtml

Palms

[Kraellin]

that sounds like you've missed a number of summers, palms. yes, no?

[plugsnpixels]

I'll trade you an LA summer for something cooler...

[Kraellin]

lol. no thanks, plugs. i remember l.a. summers. nothing like baked smog to refresh one

[palms]

Originally Posted by Kraellin

that sounds like you've missed a number of summers, palms. yes, no?

yes we have missed a lot of summers ! today and this weekend we are forecast to have about 25 degrees but Monday we will be back to 15 !

My son hit the nail on the head yesterday when talking about his holiday in grand canaria " It was so weird waking up each morning knowing that the sky was going to be blue ! "
here in the UK we never know what the weather will be like from one weekend to the next

Palms

[plugsnpixels]

"Baked smog", ha, that sums it up!

PS: We were visiting Pasadena last weekend... Strangely quiet on a Sunday evening, or is that normal?

[lkroll]

Originally Posted by palms1

yes we have missed a lot of summers ! today and this weekend we are forecast to have about 25 degrees but Monday we will be back to 15 !

My son hit the nail on the head yesterday when talking about his holiday in grand canaria " It was so weird waking up each morning knowing that the sky was going to be blue ! "
here in the UK we never know what the weather will be like from one weekend to the next

Palms

I hope you mean Celsius. lol

Have to remember, here in the US, we use Faherenheit. and 15ºF will cause pipes to burst (and it would still be quite icy at 25ºF).

PS; yes I know Celsius since that's pretty much what we had to use in Engineering courses that I had no choice but to take in College (metric is easier to work with, but my gut feels in British Units which England abandoned a long time ago).

[plugsnpixels]

I should add, though, there's nothing like the lipstick neon sunsets in LA, where the sky goes all brightly gradient as the sun slips behind the mountains, throwing them into silhouette.

Here are a couple of image+vector sunset illustrations I did years ago in Canvas X.

And don't forget the wonderful diffusion created by the smog, great for portraits.

(cough-cough)

[Kraellin]

Originally Posted by plugsnpixels

"Baked smog", ha, that sums it up!

PS: We were visiting Pasadena last weekend... Strangely quiet on a Sunday evening, or is that normal?

no idea. i lived in LA but worked in pasadena, so i never saw the nights in pasadena... much i do remember one saturday night on colorodo blvd... but that's another story

i like the pics, plugs

[plugsnpixels]

Stumbling around Old Town, eh? ;-)

Glad you liked the pix. I mixed bitmap and vector elements with full editability (Canvas lets you do that on the same page without switching apps. Waiting for Adobe to grok the concept...).

[Kraellin]

hehe. colorodo blvd on a sat. night was a party on wheels

never tried canvas. sounds good. i saw another program a few years ago that claimed to mix vector and bitmap, but never checked it out. i have both capabilities in psp but they dont play together very well.

[plugsnpixels]

Xara Xtreme is a bit like that, I think, and PhotoLine 32 as well. But Canvas is the easiest and gets you spoiled quickly.

it's dead for Mac now (as of 2005, but it still works even in Snow Leopard), but they still develop the Windows version.

I just noticed on this link I have the pix I posted earlier plus a variation showing LA getting nuked-!. All vector except the city lights (taken from Mt. Wilson). You can apply image filters/some plug-ins to vector objects, much like with IL.

[Kraellin]

ok, thanks