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Old 04-17-2010, 01:47 PM
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Still no flights next update is at 7am sunday

not only is it quiet but as today has been a clear day have missed seeing the vapour trails ! ! ! ! ! ! !

although a small light aircraft has been up for a few sorties wonder what the ATC told them ? maybe "the sky is your limit "?

The cost for British and Irish airlines is estimated at 28 million pounds per day ! ! ! !

couple that with the environmental issues this is a big issue for sure

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Ship traffic (though much slower) should still be fine for transporting goods and patient people, but beware the pirates, aaargh!
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Palms, speaking of vapor trails, I wonder if the questionable-looking chemtrails will cease as well? I see and photograph those all the time in LA, and if they're not created purposely, then we have a serious air traffic control problem...
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pnp, we do have a serious air traffic control problem in LA, but not as bad as you might think from your photos. Those are vapor trails; they stay in the air for quite a while, depending on temperature (c-c-cold at those altitudes), relative humidity, and wind. After a while they get dispersed - can make some interesting patterns if the plane that's leaving them is changing altitude, since wind can vary in direction and velocity with altitude. Your photos show contrails of different ages. They weren't all made at the same time, so just give an indication of how many planes went over in the last x hours.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:12 PM
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Hi Lurch, it's one of those things can can be (and is) endlessly debated, and I don't want to get into it all here (there are conspiracy forums for that purpose, LOL), but aside from the explanation you give which I have heard elsewhere, something must account for the weird flight patterns we see in every Western country.

X's and crosshatches, trails starting and stopping along the path, extremely high altitude flights heading west from somewhere east of LA (where are they going, China? But wait, they turned around and are heading back the same way E/W along the mountains), trails that spread until the entire sky is hazy, etc. I have even seen some planes making these trails and others not, at the same time on the same day. And the weather here doesn't really vary much, but the presence and type of the patterns do from one day to the next.

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Re: Volcano in Iceland

As a quick followup, here's a photo sequence that I think illustrates something not normal, and usually considered unacceptable proximity in aviation, no? I believe the planes were at about the same altitude over Fullerton CA.

The "X" often is part of these patterns. I shot my first one in the mid-90s in Texas without knowing much about it; I thought it looked cool, and have seen many since.

Though not over Mexico, strangely. Only upon returning to the US on a cruise ship several years ago did I see the patterns resume.

Those of you in Europe, please tell us if any of this is going on during the general aviation shutdown.

And no, I'm not a loony, I just see stuff and wonder what's going on ;-).
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The Dutch skies are as blue as a robin's egg and quiet as a crypt. It's very strange. The sunrises/sets haven't been particularly colorful.

I haven't noticed suspicious or unusual vapor trails here...any 'X'es I've seen are obviously at different times, altitudes. I've never noticed them lingering, distorting or 'skipping'. But I'll keep my eyes peeled, camera in hand. :-) That is when and if flights resume.

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In your photo you've got an X, a grid, a broken trail and two planes heading toward each other-!

Oh, and there's a face in the volcanic ash cloud! (Isn't this fun?)

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In your photo you've got an X, a grid, a broken trail and two planes heading toward each other-!
? Now you're being silly. Space is 3-dimensional and you're forgetting time.

You do realize that we are wired as babies to see faces in everything, right?
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:24 AM
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Re: Volcano in Iceland

Oh wow lots to think about there

Usually we just sit there and look at the sky watching the planes fly over leaving pretty patterns ! ! ! ! ! !

oh well as there are still no flights i will have to sit and debate the conspiracy theory !

nice photo's all lets keep the thread going with some non heated debate !

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