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Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the show!

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:01 PM
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Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the show!

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...it's amazing what a little After Effects can do to add the extra dimension to one's Photoshop stuffs!
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:49 PM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

Very cool presentation. Thanks for sharing the link to it Vernon.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:31 PM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

Yeah, thanks for posting the link.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:20 PM
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That video is so cool! Now I can see clearly that DH's imagination to make a composition is great... Thanx for the link Vernon.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:29 AM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

Glad to share it - Mr. Hill's web site has the video in his "Behind The Scenes" section.

From what I've seen of his works, the man doesn't just "layer" his shots, he creates very ingenious composites, tying in the various shots he takes.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:51 PM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

This was a fun watch but I don't think his layering structure is what makes his work cool. Almost all of the composite elements were what I expected them to be. There is some obvious work involved matching lighting and tones between the shots and it takes some time. That isn't what makes it cool though. It's more about the design/concept and the process. I'm sure at least some of the people on this board could recreate any of those images from an fpo + the image files used to make them, but that's more about technical aptitude for matching a request. The design/concept/shooting process is makes these special.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:34 AM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

Look at all the other video's on the right. It really gives you an idea the equipment, time and people to put together these shots. Then think about the Dave Hill link and many are looking for a filter or a few photoshop techniques. Dave has an entire team....not just individuals who move equipment but probably specialists in lighting, photoshop etc. Look at his lighting...the number of lights per shoot...the size. Hell think of the money invested in just the stands. So where did Dave learn his craft especially so early in life? I'm sure a lot is trial and error until he has perfected his look.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:15 AM
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This was a fun watch but I don't think his layering structure is what makes his work cool. Almost all of the composite elements were what I expected them to be. There is some obvious work involved matching lighting and tones between the shots and it takes some time. That isn't what makes it cool though. It's more about the design/concept and the process. I'm sure at least some of the people on this board could recreate any of those images from an fpo + the image files used to make them, but that's more about technical aptitude for matching a request. The design/concept/shooting process is makes these special.
It's actually all of these things, not just one or the other. Plus more.


There is a thread here called Demystifying Dave Hill that:
  • has been ongoing since April 2006
  • has 2,500 responses
  • has 325,000 views
Even so, no one even here has quite figured out how Dave Hill does it. This composite portion is only one element of his complex process -- but it's a vital one. Every element is vital, every element is what makes it look cool.

It's like a former chairman of Toyota once said in a quote I read:
  • Excellence is not so much doing one thing 100% better as it is doing 100 things 1% better.
Whether or not that quote is original to him, he certainly used it to make the correct point. Every one of those '100 things' is what makes the excellent end result so excellent.
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:13 PM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

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Old 07-16-2011, 04:44 PM
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Re: Dave Hill "Shows" his layering - Quite the sho

I came here to say mostly what Kav said previously. What makes his work unique is it's production value. He indeed has a team of talented individuals and wouldn't be able to accomplish these images without them. I imaging there is a ton of pre-visualization that goes into his work. And yes these are huge jobs, meaning there is a ton of money. Being able to scout locations all over the world has to help. Plus if you are doing an unrelated shoot and have an assistant you can tell to "go shoot all the stock you can at this location" - I imagine he has a massive collection of his own stock that he can pull from.

And from a photographer's standpoint, You have to look at how he lights. I know people don't want to hear this, but images like this have to start with good light. You are going to have a tough time getting a similar look from an image shot with one light.

All that aside, I think it's great that Dave Hill is open enough to show an exploded view of his layers like this. I think that this is more telling in regard to retouching technique than guessing at his workflow. For me what sells it is how well balanced each element is in relation to the others.

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