giza pyramid intrigue

[G. Couch]

What I want to know is, is there any real scientific basis for this "pole shift" idea? Sounds hokey to me...but if someone can point me to a reputable scientific paper on the subject I would love to read about it. There is one catastrophic natural disaster that is very real and could happen in our lives...asteroid impact. Before you laugh, realize that the odds of it happening are far greater than most people realize. scary stuff...

Margaret - It's funny that you mention times of turmoil as being times when you are most interested in the "larger riddles of the world"...I seem to create my best art when I'm in a state of personal (or financial!) confusion. There must be some correlation between creativity and personal risk/drama- when things are easy and calm, the mind does not seem to jump to that extra level as it does when things are not so calm!

[winwintoo]

Originally posted by G. Couch
There must be some correlation between creativity and personal risk/drama- when things are easy and calm, the mind does not seem to jump to that extra level as it does when things are not so calm!

I think you might be right - when I was deep in conflict at work and in my personal life, I could write like crazy. I produced some really good stuff (not published, but still good ) and I kept thinking that if I could ever get my life under control, I could settle down and be a great writer.

Well, things fell into place, all the conflict was gone, but did I write? No, I would put pen to paper and nothing would happen - all the ideas flitted away and I couldn't recapture them.

Now that I have some conflict again, the urge to write is coming back and I'm at least able to pour some energy onto the page in the form of a daily journal.

I shudder to think that in order to be creative I would have to live in turmoil the rest of my life....

Take care, Margaret

[tobycatt]

http://www.flem-ath.com/e-h.htm

Hi Everyone,

The above link may interest you. Apparently there was a correspondence between Einstein and Charles Hapgood regarding the earth crust displacement idea. Einstein told his fellow scientists to pay attention to Hapgood and his theories.

I will keep looking but I think it is an accepted concept that a pole shift has happened in the past at least once and is used to explain the tropical foliage and mammoth remains found in the arctic.


Claudia

[G. Couch]

...But you could explain tropical foliage in the Arctic as simply evidence of very slow continental drift ...or past global warming. A catastrophic "polar shift" seems like a pretty extreme explanation when more plausible theories exist.

Also, that site seems to be using Einstein as it's proof! Just because Einstein agreed with the theory does not make it true...after all, he mistakenly argued against the existence of black holes.

...I'm still a skeptic

[tobycatt]

Yeah well ok, I give up. I get too caught up in taking debates personally so I will shut up until the subject goes back to normal things.

Claudia

[G. Couch]

Speaking of ancient cultures...I found this to be pretty interesting-
Mayan "World War"

[G. Couch]

Originally posted by tobycatt
Yeah well ok, I give up. I get too caught up in taking debates personally so I will shut up until the subject goes back to normal things.

Claudia

sorry... I love debates...and rarely take anything personally, but I can come across as pretty hard headed sometimes. Please do not "shut up"...I enjoy a good debate!

[tobycatt]

I know, I am a big sissy. Maybe tomorrow when I am awake I will take up my sword again.




Claudia

[CJ Swartz]

Hey, Greg -- wanna contribute to a "good cause"?

A California man is almost ready to prove there's a giant hole connecting the North and South Poles. Next May, Hollow Earth researcher Dallas Thompson is planning to travel from the Arctic to the Antarctic by way of the hole.

So far, Thompson says he's received $100 grand in donations -- enough to buy a mini-helicopter that can zip through the hole at 100 miles per hour.

Thompson still needs another $15 grand to pay for the "hole" experience, which he says will include a side trip to a "crystal city" under the Earth and encounters with real-life dinosaurs.

[CJ Swartz]

A lot of these theories relate to beliefs in Atlantis, creationism, and / or an advanced civilization which existed thousands of years ago but vanished from the face of the earth -- retreating back into the solar system, drowned in Atlantis, or hiding in the "hollow" Earth. It seems that there was an NBC special on TV in 1996 called "The Mysterious Origins of Man" which related some of these theories.

I found one scientist's attempt to explain how current scientific findings do not agree with these alternative thoughts --

http://www.intersurf.com/~chalcedony...e.shtml#link40

These ideas are fun to talk about, but I don't believe they have any basis in fact. There are many things we don't understand, and much to learn, and the use of the scientific method will slowly reveal more to succeeding generations. I'd love to see what the current thoughts will be in 2202 or 2622 -- if mankind is still around.

[CJ Swartz]

I shudder to think that in order to be creative I would have to live in turmoil the rest of my life.... -- Margaret

I shudder to think that also, Margaret. I think there's a possible simple way to explain the situation -- when you and other creative people are enjoying happy, comfortable times, there are many directions for your energies to turn -- family, friends, interesting events going on about you, etc. This decreases your FOCUS on your creative writing interest. When difficult times erupt, your FOCUS returns to your writing as a method of dealing with those difficult issues -- (avoiding them, or working through them with your creativity). Now, if that is true, it's just a matter of learning to FOCUS on your writing even when you could be doing other fun things -- like visiting RetouchPRO, etc.

...and I just need to FOCUS on fruits and vegetables instead of ice cream...

[G. Couch]

CJ - hmmm...a real life journey to the center of the earth. I think I will keep my money! 100 grand in donations...wow! If he can get money for that, we should put up a website- "Members of Retouchpro seek Atlantis...need donations!"

I'd love to see what the current thoughts will be in 2202 or 2622 -- if mankind is still around.

I wish I could be around for that as well...although, as you say, there might not be anyone around. There are a few scientists who speculate that the reason programs like SETI have not been successful in finding ET, is that advanced civilizations tend to destroy themselves once they acquire technology like the A-bomb. Hopefully humanity can get through this period without destroying everything...but I have my doubts. (pessimistic mood today)

[paulette conlan]

Margaret
That was a very interesting observation you made between turmoil and creativity. Perhaps when our lives are in turmoil we need to escape and one positive way of doing it is through the imagination. Get below the radar of our conscious mind and let our intuition guide us. Sometimes if it feels right it is right. We (and I'm talking about myself here) get so caught up in all of the "shoulds" in life that we often don't take the time to dowhat those things that brings us the greatest satisfaction. ....at long last I'm really learning to say no and focus on what's important to me.
Greg
Don't you think perhaps the "winds of war" swirlling around us may be contributing to the feeling of unease that I've observed a number of folks are feeling. I've know I've been in an antsy mood the last week. By the way, I was listening to some congressman on tv ( don't remember who) talk about the readiness of the military and if we would ever need a draft again. Anybody know what age men( and I assume woman as well today) would be drafted at if it comes to that?
Paulette

[CJ Swartz]

Paulette,

This is from the U. S. Selective Service's website as of today --

"The Selective Service System remains in a standby, caretaker status. On Friday, March 15, 2002, in response to a question about the draft, President Bush stated that "the country shouldn't expect there to be a draft." He also stated that "the volunteer army is working ... and people shouldn't worry about a draft."

It would take legislative action by the Congress and implementation by the President to reinstate a draft in an emergency.

...young men are reminded that they are required by existing Federal law to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Late registrations are accepted, but not if a man is 26 years old or older."

IF the draft was re-instated: "For a conventional draft of "untrained" manpower, a man is in the first priority group for a possible draft during the calendar year of his 20th birthday."

"For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law."

[paulette conlan]

CJ
Thanks for the prompt response. As you may have guessed we have a son who we were thinking about.
Paulette