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Old 09-07-2003, 03:57 PM
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Real deep thinking.....

I just saw a license plate "HAY Y R" - haywire??

I've heard that expression all my life and it means something is wrong.

But where did it come from? What is "haywire" is it wire to bind hay??

The heat is getting to me,

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Old 09-07-2003, 06:57 PM
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miz margaret,

as the heat has distinctly lessened here, i am able to find:

___The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.__2000.
NOUN: Wire used in baling hay.
ADJECTIVE: Informal 1. Mentally confused or erratic; crazy: went haywire over the interminable delays. 2. Not functioning properly; broken.
ETYMOLOGY: From the use of baling wire for makeshift repairs .
WORD HISTORY: Why should the word for something as functional and mundane as haywire have come to be applied to something that is not functioning properly or to a person who is crazy? It would seem a story of semantics gone haywire. Haywire is a compound of the words hay and wire, originally simply denoting wire used to bale hay or straw. The term is first recorded as a noun in a debate in the Canadian House of Commons (1917), so it is a Canadianism or, since it appeared soon thereafter in a U.S. publication, a North Americanism. We find an earlier (1905) attributive use in the phrase hay wire outfit, a term used contemptuously for poorly equipped loggers. What lies behind this term is the practice of making repairs with haywire. Haywire is found in other contexts with the general sense “makeshift, inefficient,” from which come the extended senses “not functioning properly” and “crazy.”

from your own neck of the woods, no less.
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Old 09-07-2003, 07:11 PM
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AAAHHHH The duct tape of yesterday ...
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Old 09-07-2003, 07:27 PM
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Thanks Kathleen. The other famous term that came out of the House of Commons was "fuddle duddle" - I'll leave the meaning to your imagination.

Roger, I see what you mean, but "duct tape" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Take care, Margaret
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