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Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

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Old 11-15-2008, 06:24 PM
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Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

OK, it's kind of silly, but years ago back in the pre-OS X days, I used to do this little art project called "Vortex." See them here:
http://ayola.com/vortex

My main tool was Kai's Power Tools, but much of the time I used their "twirl" tool (I'm not even sure if that's what they called it). The reason I used theirs and not Photoshop's is that Photoshop does not give smooth edges, and the KPT plugin edges were perfectly smooth. I did a new test today to see if the twirl tool in PS had made any progress and... nope. Here's a screen shot of a simple twirl at 100%. (no sharpening, although it really looks like it)

http://ayola.com/aweb/twirl-PS-test.jpg

So, the question is. Are there any plugins out there that can get me the results that I got with KPT? Any techniques I could use to fix PS's issues with this?

I would hate to have to go back to a box running OS 9 to play with this project again. :-)

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Old 11-15-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

Have you tried the twirl tool in the Liquify filter?

Also, you might try upsampling first, then downsampling after (you need to deliberately introduce some errors).
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

KPT Collection combines a selection of all the powerful Kai's Power Tools plug-in filters of KPT 5, KPT 6 and KPT effects into a single, all-in-one solution that gives professional designers an unprecedented set of creative tools.

Didn't see any 'Twirl' tool though...
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:56 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

I used GIMP's Whirl and Pinch along with an Amazing Circle Script-fu (and some drop shadow and other stuff) for this one.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8509/wpky7.png
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

And here's a slight variation. Note: both ones that I did have transparent backgrounds. Enjoyed the play by the way.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4872/wp2zm8.png
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:08 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

Thanks everyone.

Some other info.

I create these and print them 20" square (300 dpi), so the details are very clear in a print. If you do a test, then do it on a high res file and look at it at 100%.

I've looked at the latest KPT and couldn't find a tool called twirl or anything like it, but I wonder if the capability is inside one of the other filters.

Liquify... I'm not sure how you would create the effect on the entire image, especially when the brush size only goes up to 600 px. That's really small on a 20x20 300 dpi file. I only played for a few, so I may have missed something there.

GIMP... If it looks good on a close p of a large file as described, then I might look into it. Just make a large square file, then put an off-center circle of color in there and run the filter... Look at it at 100%, does it look better then the example I showed in my original post?

Thanks you guys, really. I didn't think I'd get a lot of replies to this question.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

Hmmm... It seems as if there is a twirl in the KPT Goo section of the collection. I've never seen that until just now. There might be hope! Well, it would be a $99.99 experiment. :-)
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

If you have Photoshop CS4, try the new Pixel Bender twirl filter
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/files/pixelbender.mov (1 minute demo movie)
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

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If you have Photoshop CS4, try the new Pixel Bender twirl filter
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/files/pixelbender.mov (1 minute demo movie)
Not on CS4 yet, but...
Thats looks like something I could use, but I wonder if the twirl filter has the same issues as it does in CS3 and earlier. Hmmm...
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: Looking for the best "Twirl" solution.

you could also take a look at the filters in the filter forge library ( http://www.filterforge.com ). there's quite a few distortion type filters there.

you could also do a search here in the forums for 'polar coordinates' . i think it was in the art forum where we were playing around with those. it's not the same as your twirl, but it does produce some interesting circular effects.
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