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Old 07-31-2009, 03:20 PM
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Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Just when you thought it couldn't get any better, our friends at Topaz have been working on a new plug-in that enables you to create HDR-like detail enhancement without the halos!

Here is a screenshot of the unreleased, upcoming product, called Topaz Detail (due in two weeks), as well as a quick before-and-after.

There's an incredible amount of control. Here's a description the developer sent me:

"We are trying to provide very fine control of details adjustment, whether to enhance them or to reduce them. We also provide an interesting tone control based on color.

"A key benefit of this plug-in is that it uses a very recent advance in detail extraction, which basically does NOT create HDR halo like effect at all. So you can create very hash/detailed looking images without halos, which looks more natural.

"Here is how it works:

1. It first decomposes the luminance of the image into three layers of details: coarse, med, and fine.
2. In the "details tab", three sets of sliders are provided to control the strength of these layers in the final image.
3. In addition, there is a "tone tab" with which you can change overall luminance tone by adding/subtracting color in lum channel, as well as normal adjustment."

I'll provide more examples soon as I spend more time with the brand new beta.
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:33 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Cannot wait for this product to arrive. Woo-Hoo!!!
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:49 PM
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Here I am creating and saving my own presets by experimenting with the sliders in each tab.

The samples show: Original, a 1940's look and an artsy look.

I like the NYC pix because they include both hard and soft subjects.

The next step would be to combine these results with Clean or Simplify for even more fun.
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Old 07-31-2009, 06:04 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

A mixture of my 1940s and Artsy preset layers from Detail plus effects from Topaz Clean and Adjust (saturation purposely enhanced). Plus the boring original, downsized.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:42 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

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So you can create very hash/detailed looking images without halos,
from your first post, what is 'hash' in that sentence?

also, good stuff there, plugs. looks very enticing!
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:28 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

That was a copy/paste from the developer's email. I missed fixing that typo for him ;-). Unless he was referring to pictures of hash browns (?).
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

BTW, did you notice the placement of the Empire State Building alongside the smoke stacks? I was on the Circle Line ship and saw that composition coming as we sailed along... I also have a shot of the ESB in the middle of the four stacks. That sort of thing helps pass the three hours-!

Another thing to note is I had to save these combo images from PS at less that 50% quality to make the 100k forum limit, so of course the Detail effects look better when viewed in the original file. I'll run some bigger results in my next ezine.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

typo! rokily dokily, good neighbor
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

whooppee, I am very excited. I use all the Topaz products and can not believe I got along without them before
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:10 AM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Hi Mike, I note on the last image you posted, some similarities to vivacity in the effects you got there!
However, I'm really quite intrigued by the GUI and the colour tone adjustments now available on the 'Tone tab' but I wonder what is available on the 'Colour tab' itself?
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:27 AM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

ileen, I can't believe what these guys are pulling off either! Fantastic plug-ins at very low prices. They've hit upon the secret recipe for success in this genre.

Harry, I did a blend of results from Detail with those from Adjust and Clean, hence the squiggly lines reminiscent of Vivacity (which has been replaced in the product line with Clean).

Once I fire up Windows on my MacBook later I'll grab another screenshot for you.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:36 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Here is a set of screenshots showing all three tabs. IMO the first two are the most powerful, offering a wide range of tweaks; the third is for mopping up.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:45 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

I agree, great plugins and the price can not be beat. I have been using it on all of my photos to some degree. I look forward to the new one. They also give great introductory pricing as well
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:50 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Here's an example of pushing the settings in the Details tab close to the max (using a pic of a lovely chemtrail display in LA). Notice the lack of haloing around the outside of the trees and buildings which you normally see when doing extreme HDR-like effects. There are some white areas within the trees –*I need to check and see if that was caused by my purposely increasing the contrast.

Note: Only Topaz Details was used for the "after" image; no further PS tonal tweaks were applied. I could have had a some detail in the shadow areas but chose to go for a contrasty look. At this point Detail does not have a noise slider, so you could prep your image in Topaz DeNoise if you don't want the texture.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

well no halos makes for a pretty perfect plugin
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

OK, the white tree interiors were the result of me overdoing the Median Boost. See screenshot for revised settings which fixed the problem.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:22 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

This product looks very promising, thanks for the heads up and work you have done to date.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:51 AM
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You're welcome, Bodak!

I've posted a web page for Detail here. I'll revise it as more info comes in.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Beta 1 introduced some rearrangement of the sliders on the tabs. Here are screenshots.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:16 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Wow, that's what i call coincidence.
It happens i'm developing a very similar tool based on the WLS operator: it performs a pyramidal decomposition and let's you adjust the details at various scales, for more information you can read more here.

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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Manuel, sounds promising! Please keep us informed.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

so when is this coming out and what's going to be the cost?
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Old 08-03-2009, 01:23 AM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

There may be some news about a beta today (Monday); I haven't heard anything about cost yet but will let you know ASAP.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

The first Detail beta for Windows is now ready (Mac version coming Wednesday), and includes factory presets. See the download link at the top of the page here. Serial number is in the ReadMe that is included with the file.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:49 PM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Very EXCITING! The folks at Lucisart have to drop their price or they will be going out of business!!!
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As for Detail's pricing, the developer says, "Bundle: it will be put into the bundle. We will offer the existing bundle customers a coupon code so that the early bundle customers will only need to pay a nominal difference if the new bundle price increase a little."

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Old 08-05-2009, 04:54 AM
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

I would like to know when the mac beta version is ready or available.

Thanks
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Beta 2 of Detail is now available (I revised the download link on my page):

From the developer:

"You have to un-install the Detail beta1 before installing beta2.

The changes are:
1) Crash ("unsupported operation"): fixed, we believe.
2) SPEED: increased the pre-processing speed 50%~100%, depends on your CPU (on a quad-core i7, I can do 10MP image within a minute).
3) Fixed the bug that causes bad blocks in preview.
4) Greatly reduced the memory use. Can process larger pictures.
5) Changed the label of the Tone sliders (no functional change)."

The Mac version will be released as soon as the Windows version has had its bug fixes and tweaks, so the Mac beta will be up to date right out of the gate.

Also, beta testers are discovering Detail is also a very good convert-to-B&W option.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

The Mac version is now available!
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Is anyone else having a problem downloading this file? Mine stops at about 12% and says the download is complete. Tried it a few times with the same result.

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I've had this happen on both weak wireless and dialup, but I sucked it down in seconds from the office.

Do you want me to email it to you (5mb)?
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I've had this happen on both weak wireless and dialup, but I sucked it down in seconds from the office.

Do you want me to email it to you (5mb)?
Sure that would be great. Thanks.

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Thanks Mike for the file. I've only been playing with the plugin for a short time but it looks like Topaz has got a real winner with this program. Very cool.

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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

You're welcome Joe! I too can't believe how many things Topaz has to offer.

BTW, I just revised my beta download links – new betas for Mac (b3) and Windows (b4) are out.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Beta 4 is now available (These boys move fast!!)
It's faster and without the bug which was apparent in Beta 2.
You can get it from the link on the Flickr Topaz group here
http://www.flickr.com/groups/topaz/d...7621959971282/
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Thanks Harry! I've got the beta versions labeled on my Detail info page now.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Beta 5 for Mac is just out, solving both a multiprocessor crash issue and related compatbility issues when using other developers' plug-ins in the same session. Also, it seems a lot faster!
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

All of a sudden all of my Topaz filters are causing my CS4 to crash when I try to use. Any suggestions?
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

skydog, have you been installing/uninstalling the various betas? What are your system specs?

On the Mac side Detail beta5 no longer crashes PS, even when used along with other developers' products. Topaz has included in that beta their own fix for a problem once thought to be related to Intel's OpenMP libraries. As of minutes ago, a new beta of Adjust is available with this same fix, which I am about to test.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

Actually I was about to install this first beta for this particular program, only to find my existing topaz plugs were crashing. The only thing I have done was a recent "purge" when I was running out of Ram working on a picture. Also my hard drive is down to 6 GB. I have CS3 still on my computer and it works fine with Topaz. Its just my CS4 that crashes everytime I open a Topaz filter.
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Re: Topaz Labs does it again! New product coming

PC or Mac? 6 gigs is pretty tight either way (little room for virtual memory or swap files).

Might as well try the beta; you can always reinstall your original plug-ins afterwards.
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PC..I need to clean my hard drive then I'll see what happens...
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Can you put a second drive in, and/or get an external drive? I've done both, plus offload stuff onto data DVDs.
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yep...that's what I will do first
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Alright, Topaz Detail is out! You can get it as a standalone (look here for a discount) or as part of the Topaz Suite (now a six-plug-in bundle).
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Detail is among the Topaz plug-ins featured in the new issue #15 of my free ezine, where I offer a tutorial on using multiple developers' plug-ins to create digital art.
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