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Old 05-19-2010, 10:10 AM
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Best software/settings for slide scanning...

I am getting ready to scan over 2000 of my own slides with a Nikon 5000. I want to make sure I get the best raw images from the scan I can and then worry about post processing later. If I understand correctly the only things I need to worry about during scan time are color depth, resolution, # of passes and whether I use ICE or not. What I want to confirm is that all other image adjustments like ROC/GEM/color/contrast/intensity/sharpness, etc. can all be done post scan and do not require anything additional done at scan time.

I am assuming that the only reason the GEM and ROC can be applied at scan time in the Nikon software is licensing and cost related? Is it worth it to buy the GEM and ROC plug ins for Photoshop or do the Photoshop Elements built in color, contrast, etc. adjustments work just as well?

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Old 05-19-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: Best software/settings for slide scanning...

Jeff, you want to turn OFF all of the auto adjustments (except ICE). No descreen, no auto color, no auto tone, no auto contrast, no GEM, no ROC, no auto sharpen, no auto brightness, .... More often than not they will screw up an excellent scan. Capture at maximumun bit depth (I can't remember if its 12, 13, 14 bit but you want to end up with a 16 bit file. There is nothing you cant do in PS afterward. If you have a lot of old negatives whose color has shifted due to emulsion degradation of orange filter shift (images have a strong blue cast) you can correct in PS or you can purchase inexpensive dedicated filters like Kodak's Digital ROC.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:12 PM
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Re: Best software/settings for slide scanning...

Murray,
Thanks for the info.
How do the Elements built in enhancement filters compare to the Kodak ROC and GEM? Is it worth it to pay $100 each for ROC and GEM? Do they work with Elements or only the full Photoshop? Do either of them have an Auto mode where it does it's best guess and then you can fine tune from there or are they all manual adjustments?
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:05 PM
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Re: Best software/settings for slide scanning...

Jeff, if you are planning to do serious retouching I don't think Elements has the tools you need. I suggest you invest in the full version of PS or one of the other major image editing programs and work with a few of your scans. If you
of your scans. You can then look at some 3rd party plugins yo see if they would be useful to you. You can do pretty much everything in PS that a plugins can do but setes a plugin will save you time because certain functions are automated.
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Old 05-20-2010, 02:09 PM
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Re: Best software/settings for slide scanning...

I would not call it serious retouching... not serious enough for the over $600 price tag. I'd greatly appreciate details from anyone on how the built in Elements enhancement filters compare to ROC and GEM in quality/flexibility and confirmation that the GEM/ROC plug ins work with Elements. The Kodak site is sparse on info.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:49 PM
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Jeff, I have not used Elements so I can not comment on it's capabilities. However I do have Kodac DROC. It's basically a 1 click function. It works on some types of images but not on others. For the images where it works it does a great job but when it misses, it misses big time. It seems to work very well when the negatives or prints have gone through natural degradation - like evenly faded or weakening of the orange filter they put on negative film. However if you have human induced damage like light leaks or coffee stains, it usually won't help you. If you want to see what it will do, you can post a few sample images and I will run the filter on them for you.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:32 PM
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Re: Best software/settings for slide scanning...

the nice thing about digital is, you can erase it all and do it again. just test out your settings with a number of trials. manuals, 'experts' and anything else like this are really poor substitutes for just going in yourself and looking. i know that sounds a bit smart-assed, but it's really quite true. just test it out and look for yourself. that's how you get the best results
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