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Old 10-12-2010, 05:31 AM
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Problems with camera raw color profile

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When I open a photo in Camera Raw, colors are washed out and when they switch in photoshop they become stronger and different. I have a HP2475w monitor calibrated using spyder3elite tool. I was set the Color settings in Photoshop to the calibrated settings while the camera raw does not have that option. Otherwise, when the photos transferred from Canon DPP program, the colors are the same in DPP and Photoshop.
How can I solve this problem?

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Old 10-12-2010, 05:43 AM
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

If you have you Color Mismatch boxes checked in Photoshop's Edit>Color Settings, then when Camera Raw opens the file in PS, PS will present a warning box telling you the image has a profile that is different from your working space and it will offer you choice to convert, to display in embedded color space, or to ignore the profile. If you ignore, then all of the colors will look different.
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:12 AM
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

I did it and when I convert it the colors are same in PS and ACR but they are dull.
The colors are faded now as when they are converted from the DPP.
But when I turn off profile mismatches, the photos in the DPP are the same as in PS.
I mention that the color settings in DPP is sRGB, same as in ACR.

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Old 10-12-2010, 09:19 AM
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

You’ve got some kind of color settings issue. The images you see in ACR will perfectly match what you see after rendering in Photoshop. Make sure at the very least your PS color settings are set so the policies are set to Preserve and the warning check boxes below are all on. Sounds like you have a different RGB working space set in Photoshop than you are asking from ACR and you have the polices set to off.

IF the colors match in ACR and Photoshop and are both dull, you need to learn to use ACR to make the image appears as you desire (that’s what all them sliders are for <g>).
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

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Hi,

I was set the Color settings in Photoshop to the calibrated settings
Thank you.
What Color Space (Edit>Color Settings) is PS set to as its working color space?

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Old 10-12-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

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What Color Space (Edit>Color Settings) is PS set to as its working color space?

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I use spyder3 calibrated profile.
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I use spyder3 calibrated profile.
Thats for your display.What RGB Working Space, configured in Color Settings are you using?
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:30 PM
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

IF the colors match in ACR and Photoshop and are both dull, you need to learn to use ACR to make the image appears as you desire (that’s what all them sliders are for <g>).[/QUOTE]

Yes, but the image in ACR on settings "as shot" is quite different then in Canon DPP program where the colors are much better.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:33 PM
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Yes, but the image in ACR on settings "as shot" is quite different then in Canon DPP program where the colors are much better.
Of course it is, they are two different raw converters.

As Shot is simply a metadata suggestion. The WB has no role in terms of the capture of the raw data. You can and should move the various sliders to produce a rendering you prefer. Those settings will not translate to any other raw converter. Both ACR and presumably DPP have a default rendering setup. If you don’t like the default in ACR, you can roll your own new user default. From there you can adjust (season to taste) or just render the data.
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Re: Problems with camera raw color profile

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Of course it is, they are two different raw converters.

As Shot is simply a metadata suggestion. The WB has no role in terms of the capture of the raw data. You can and should move the various sliders to produce a rendering you prefer. Those settings will not translate to any other raw converter. Both ACR and presumably DPP have a default rendering setup. If you don’t like the default in ACR, you can roll your own new user default. From there you can adjust (season to taste) or just render the data.
Yes, it could be like that. Thank you.
Tomorow I'll see what Color Space is PS set to as its working color space because it's on my working place.
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