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Old 05-11-2013, 10:23 AM
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Andrew, IIRC Jeff mentioned having (maybe not actually using) BarneyScan.
That was our friend and partner, Bruce Fraser, not Jeff.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:27 AM
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GIMP does, Pixelmator does, maybe Paint.net, maybe Corel PSP (I'm on a Mac right now w/o Windows VM open). Of course any proprietary Adobe layer stuff won't translate.
The last sentence is super important!

While they may work with PSD's you can not re-edit your layers and other proprietary Adobe technology. The day you signed on to edit images in Photoshop, you signed onto a lot of their own, unique proprietary processing. Nothing new here! You can jump ship and find other products, but if you expect them to open, access and allow you to work with layers and the like, you're going to be disappointed big time. Save out a flattened PDS or far, far better, TIFF, you'll find lots of products that will open them and allow you to further edit that 'baked' image appearance.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:29 AM
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If you still have your CS6 installer on disc or your hard drive, and the there is no OS conflicts, they really can't disallow you to install on a new computer right?
In theory, as long as you deactivate PS from your old computer you should be okay.
Right? What do you guys think?

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Old 05-11-2013, 01:06 PM
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The last sentence is super important!

While they may work with PSD's you can not re-edit your layers and other proprietary Adobe technology. The day you signed on to edit images in Photoshop, you signed onto a lot of their own, unique proprietary processing...
And this (besides the cost) is a big reason people are becoming hesitant to jump onto the new licensing scheme and new Adobe layer features. Trust is broken.

The Rolling Stones' "Get Off Of My Cloud" is appropriate here ;-)
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:11 PM
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And this (besides the cost) is a big reason people are becoming hesitant to jump onto the new licensing scheme and new Adobe layer features. Trust is broken.
Well it's a good reality check for anyone who thought that jumping into any software technology automatically means they can (or should) move backwards a version or move to another solution. If you are OK losing your full editing options on all previous Photoshop documents, then you're in a good position. If you think you'll need to go back and re-edit those doc's, you better plan ahead. There are strategies one can take to do this with minimal negative effects. But if you're working in CC, want to move back, think about the implications of using Smart Objects or at the very least, well before you cancel the subscription, open those documents and prep them for use in CS6 or earlier software.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:15 PM
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There is no new Adobe layer features in CC. There are new processes that can be applied on a layer and all my testing shows you can go backwards to CS6 unless you mess with Smart Objects or the new rounded rectangles. IOW, I can use Shake Reduction in CC, apply the results to a good old layer and save it. Then open it in CS6 just fine. IF I had instead applied Shake Reduction to a Smart Object, this would not be the case.

Text layers have, from day 1 been a bit iffy but going back a version should pop an error in any case. Rasterize (or adjust to legacy behavior) and going back, within reason is no issue.
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Good advice.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:49 PM
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And the difference between this and renting a house or apartment or car is?
Valid point Mike, but I was thinking more along the lines of the rent-to-own programs for furniture and appliances. I view software at a smaller scale than a house/apartment or car.

End point is, if you find yourself having to drop your cloud membership for whatever reason, then it appears you are left with nothing. And that bothers me.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:23 PM
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Valid point Mike, but I was thinking more along the lines of the rent-to-own programs for furniture and appliances. I view software at a smaller scale than a house/apartment or car.

End point is, if you find yourself having to drop your cloud membership for whatever reason, then it appears you are left with nothing. And that bothers me.
I think that rent to own is quite different. So far I have seen nothing from Adobe mentioning this.

So for now we are just like renting an apartment or car, you pay, you enjoy, you do not pay you are left with only the memories....
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